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Brian Collins
Film Handler

Posts: 96
From: Christchurch UK
Registered: Jan 2007

posted January 08, 2009 02:20 PM

Guess what! I'm in trouble again, having run this machine all seemed fine but when I put Super 8 through it it just cobbled up and would not form the lower loop it tried to go straight down through the channel, I have noticed the standard 8 film guide has a short lip on it to guide the film around to form the loop but the super 8 has not, is this common or has a piece been broken off, funny enough my other machine an S810 is the same but I have no problem with that. Any advice please

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Eric Baucher
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 143
From: MD
Registered: Apr 2007

posted January 08, 2009 11:58 PM

the lip on the bottom of the reg * gate is there because of the greter length between the sound and the picture on Reg 8 sound film. the lip is missing off of the super 8 gate because the sound is only 18 frames away from the pic on standard * it is 56 frames. sometimes the super 8 gate doesnt sit in EXACTLY the right spot. you may have to take out the super 8 gate and re seat it before its right. its possible that someone forgot to turn the inching knob to the 12: 00 position before attempting to change the gates. neglecting to do that will bend the pulldown claw and permanently ruin the projector. I have two eumigs, one set for reg 8 the other for super eight its easier to switch the projectors sometimes than fiddle with the gates.

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Brian Collins
Film Handler

Posts: 96
From: Christchurch UK
Registered: Jan 2007

posted January 09, 2009 02:17 AM

Thanks Eric, I find that the both gates on this do not sit very well and having tried the standard gate all seems to be OK but I have found one problem and that is the top sprocket just revolves freely and is not connected to the drive wheels inside,do these break? could this be the problem why the super is cobbling up at the bottom of the gate where it enters the channel.

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Brian Collins
Film Handler

Posts: 96
From: Christchurch UK
Registered: Jan 2007

posted January 11, 2009 05:44 AM

Have solved my problems on my 824, I found the plastic drum had split that holds the top sprocket where the allen screw is and I stuck it with super glue and turned a very thin brass sleeve to fit over it for support so that it cannot happen again and thats fine

the cobbling was still a problem but on investigating it I found that the "sound box" (dont know what its called as I have no manual) has a brass tag on the rear that opens to allow the film to lace up through the channel and this was not opening fully, a slight adjustment on the tag has cured that problem. Can anyone tell me what the 2 buttons control that is on the counter, one is Red with 'S' on it and the other Black with three '000'.

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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1269
From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted January 11, 2009 06:33 AM

Brian,
A good repair! (I called it a "cobble", as in "cobbled up", then realised your use of the word was to describe your other problem!).
Obviously you don't have a manual for this machine.
Those buttons are part of the mechanical "frame counting" recording provisions which give it the name "Sonomatic". Try searching for a Operators Manual download on the Web; if you are still in trouble, email me .... and I'll scan the relevant pages (It might be a day or two before I locate my Manual)
Martin

[ January 11, 2009, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Martin Jones ]

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Josef Grassmann
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 190
From: Hennef-Sieg, Germany
Registered: Apr 2005

posted January 14, 2009 12:50 PM

User manual - in German, only - is avaiable for free download (8 MB)under
www dot super8projektor dot de
Under "Downloads Projektoren" EUMIG you will find user manuals.
Eumig 824 is the last one added, so go down to bottom.

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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1269
From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted January 14, 2009 01:55 PM

Have found Manual; offer still stands

Martin

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