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Osi Osgood
Film God

Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted January 10, 2009 12:05 PM

Hey folks, I have a question. I usually don't do a lot recording with projectors, and this will actually be the first time I'll be recording in stereo myself.

Which of my two stereo recording projectors should I use?

EUMIG 926 stereo
Chinon 9500 stereo

This is concerning recording and not playback. I highly prefer the EUMIG for stereo playback, but would it be better for recording?

Inquiring recording artists want to know?

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Mike Tynus
Expert Film Handler

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From: Addison, IL, USA
Registered: Apr 2008

posted January 10, 2009 01:16 PM

Osi,
Your Eumig 926 will give outstanding results. Not only will your sound quality be excellent and smooth, but the sound editing will also be very clean as well. This is achieved by running the film in the silent position, activating the record buttons, then turning the selector switch to the sound position at the point you want to start recording. The result will be an undetectable, smooth edit. Also it has perfect sound Fade capabilities that work 100% clean. Of course, the quality will also be dependent on condition of the heads and pressure pad.

I've never used a Chinon so I can't give an evaluation of that, but you can't go wrong using your Eumig.

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted January 11, 2009 04:42 AM

Why not just try them out and see which one is best?

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Paul Adsett
Film God

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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted January 11, 2009 11:03 AM

Osi, I agree with Mike, the Eumig 926 will give you absolutely superb recording quality. I always record using my 926 or 938 because it has a really precise varaiable speed control for manual synching, and it gives me the best quality recordings of any of my machines, including the GS1200.

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Maurizio Di Cintio
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Ortona, Italy
Registered: Jan 2004

posted January 12, 2009 03:51 PM

Hi Paul. How does the Eumig 938 compare to the GS 1200 when using the newer Derann grey-brown sound paste stripe?

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted January 13, 2009 12:23 PM

The 926 it is! I have always admired the nice warm quality of the stereo on the 926. I thinking about linking a DBX encoder inbetween the sound source and the projector to improve the overall sound. The only problem with this idea, of course, is that the DBX encoded signal wouldn't be processed by the projector, but is there any chance that if the sound source is channeled from the projector to a DBX unit and then to the stereo system, would I still get the DBX signal, or would the decoder have to be the original sound heads of the projector and have the DBX decoder actually built into the projector as well?

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James E. Stubbs
Expert Film Handler

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From: Portland, OR
Registered: Apr 2007

posted January 13, 2009 07:44 PM

Osi, as to DBX... That is exactly how they work. Record in encode, play out decode. You can use a DBX or Dolby encoder/ decorder with ANY analog recording method. They even did this with LP's It's what's known as a "Compander". COMPresssion and EXPANDsion. The digital equivilent would be a "codec" Coder-Decoder.

I can't belive I didn't think of it. It would be an outstanding way to improve the quality of sound films if the compansion proves compatabel with the projectors recording/playback system. I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work. Keep in mind films recorded using DBX can only be properly played back using DBX. If you play it back w/out the encoder/decoder in place the sound level will be very low and the fequency response will be out of wack. If it's all only for long term personal use, it should work great! Do it and let us know how it comes out.
Cheers,

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