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Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on February 14, 2009, 04:33 AM:

Does anybody knows something about super 8mm film in Greek language or Greek subtitles? I am not talking about amature travel films, but for company productions. Any inf?

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on February 18, 2009, 05:17 AM:

Hello Antoni,

& welcome to the forum :)Whereabout in Athens do you live?
....To the best of my knowledge there were very,very few films subtitled in Greek-once I saw a Robin Hood film box-but don't know if it was the Erol Flynn classic or a b-movie- which had on it 'Greek subtitles' written- in Greek-. It's the only time I remember having seen such a thing; maybe some elder Greek Forum members know a bit more on this?
Another issue is, Greek movies on 8mm-still very few....

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on February 24, 2009, 10:03 AM:

Yanni,
thank you very much for the welcome. I am a beginner. I started only one year ago but I love the idea of small format movie playing very much! I have some good reels for me, my wife and of course my kids that they loved it! Like father like sons.
I am trying to find Greek movies in super 8mm but I think this is almost impossible. The only item I have found until now was "Adventures of Sinbad" - "Oi peripeteies tou Sinbad" in a box with Greek titles. The box was nice with the Greek letters but the movie was in English without even subtitles. So I did not buy it. Feel free to mail me, or to visit me in facebook. All of our talking must be through the forum so everybody can read and learn and participate in the exchange of information.
By the way, Nea Smyrnh.

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on February 24, 2009, 05:26 PM:

Yanis,my little boy,I don't know whom are you insinuating as an "elder Greek Forum member",since you are an older member of the Forum, (and the first Greek to join !!!) but I can add my two cents worth of knowledge to the subject.

The (spotty and miserable) history of Greek 8mm film production hasn't been written,yet. Basically it was one guy,Fanis Coulouris,officially a film distributor with an office at the well known "Greek Hollywood" building at 98 Akadimias street ,at Kanningos square,Athens,operating under his banner FAN FILM.In addition,operating from his home kitchen,or it was bathroom,he produced and sold 8mm films "With Greek Subtitles"!!! What he did,was to take worn, thrown out prints that had extended their useful life ,literary from the distributors' garbage cans,and make 8 mm prints out of them.They were dark,contrasty, fuzzy,with a furry frame and hair dancing around,but, they did have "Greek Subtitles"! His list included four Three Stooges,five Hugh Herberts and one Quillan and Vernon comedies,several cartoons,including a few Tom and Jerrys and several feature "extracts".This means, the "parts" he had saved,started suddenly and ended suddenly,in mid-action or whenever.In addition,he filmed "travelogues",to be sold in kiosques and touristic areas,that were as amateurish as they can be.Two examples that I have,are 50 ft reels in 100 ft specially made boxes. The feature extracts included TARZAN THE APEMAN (Weissmuller),THE THREE MUSKETEERS (Jeff Stone),ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD (Flynn) and at least six Greek films.A number of the above,including the Greek films,are sound copies.All are in b&w.He operated from about the mid sixties to the mid seventies (?) Since they weren't advertised at all,being illegal,one must look hard to find them in the flea market,or wherever.I myself,have seen very few,hiring them from the film libraries of the time.

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on February 25, 2009, 02:38 AM:

Hi,

it looks like "Tango of Perversion" (alias "Tango 2001" or "Tango della perversione") by Costas Karagiannis is available as a full-length-super8-feature:
http://www.die-besten-horrorfilme.de/horror/film914-Tango-of-Perversion.csp
However the article only mentions Super8-prints with English soundtrack (and without any subtitles)...

Jörg

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on February 27, 2009, 01:30 PM:

Isn't JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS in Greek then? Hehehe...

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on February 28, 2009, 06:39 AM:

Antoni,
I wish you many years of fun with our hobby,quite as many as I have had-only 25 so far....are you in Facebook then? Good-I'll add you to my friends with your permission; actually it could be a good idea for Forum members to form a Facebook group...
had no idea about Sindbad,but as our friend Takhs took over,I can only stay aside,silent and -once again-impressed by his limitless knowledge of the film world [Eek!]

(...by the way, my good Takh, the 'elder' I used refers to age,not membership at the Forum;of course I've been a member well before you,but the word to use in that case is 'senior' member,while 'elder' refers to age,not membership. I stop here 'cause I don't wanna turn this into an English lesson-I've shown off enough already [Roll Eyes]

....on something more to the point:very useful info you gave here-I thought only one or two Greek films were released on S-8, but,like you say yourself,I'm but a little boy,how could I know better [Big Grin]

)

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on February 28, 2009, 06:27 PM:

My boy Yani,despite my limited knowledge of the English language, I do know the difference between "older' and "elder".I just tried to make an unfortunate joke,which turned against me [Frown]

But then....as this is a film forum and limitless knowledge of the film world is more important than vast knowledge of the English language, well.. I don't feel so bad [Razz]

And now,back to a few more bits from my limitless knowledge !!
There was another 8mm producer,releasing as FLECTA FILMS of whom I know next to nothing. He is supposed to have released at least two Greek features,one being a big hit from 1958,DIAKOPES STIN EGINA (Vacation in Aegina), with Greece's greatest star,Aliki Vougiouklaki,on her rise to stardom,plus several extracts .I have never seen any other titles or catalogues.I have only one extract from the above,a two reeler,which is numbered 32/50.So,at least we know that he made 50 copies of this one.It is in super 8 ,so, it must have been released at least in the late sixties.

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on March 03, 2009, 02:18 AM:

Dear fellow members. Too much information, in so little time! I really feel the need to say a huge thank you! I just popped up a question and the answers were full of rare information. I can understand that you are expert members with knowledge and a great love about films. I hope to keep this “Greek” topic alive and bring more friends.
Thank you Yani.
Panayoti thank you, master. RESPECT.

PS neonlights32@hotmail.com
www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1300698462&ref=profile

Kali Sarakosti.

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on March 05, 2009, 05:43 AM:

My good Takh,

I can only bow to your limitless knowledge of film,which is more than obviously what counts in the Forum, realising how long a way I've got to go to reach the levels of your wisdom [Roll Eyes]

...I also remember a title released in S-8 with Thanasis Veggos in Greek: 'Vlepe-akou-mila' if memory helps; could it be the extract you were talking about?
...thanks for the F/B info Antoni, you'll have a new friend request shortly [Wink]

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on March 05, 2009, 03:29 PM:

Thank you my boys for the respect you are showing to your older/elders [Embarrassed]

Yanis ,yes,this is the extract I have, "Vlepe,Akou, Sopa" (Look,Listen, Shut Up)

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on March 08, 2009, 06:25 PM:

Yes Takh, that's it; fancy showing this some time in the summer [Wink]

...Antoni, check your Facebook-you've got a new friend awaiting confirmation [Smile]

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on March 16, 2009, 02:57 AM:

A walk around monastiraki flea market and with a lot of luck you can find very nice films.
I found a small amount of Flecta films and only one of Fan films. I felt very happy and of course very lucky. In a simple no name 400’ reel box I found a film with no name, but something in my mind was saying to me that I have to buy it. When I went home I saw that the film was the Greek “Fovatai o Giannis to therio”. I made a cover of Flecta films lookalike but I am not sure that the film was from Flecta. It was badly edit and it gave me the idea that in its first edition was bigger (600’ or 2X400’). Does someone knows something about it?
Other Flecta films titles that I found are Greek language “H ftvxeia thelh kaloperash” 400’, and Greek sub “Oi tyxodivxtes” 400’ with Xontro Ligno, “O Spanki kai o theios tou” 400’, “Roben tvn dasvn” 2X400’.
I also found a FAN FILMS 200’ 8mm with no titles on, but inside the old paper box was a French film “La Mainor Hante”. I believe wrong reel in wrong box. Never mind, I got a rare box!

CU around
Antonis (Happy member)

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on March 16, 2009, 08:44 AM:

Bloody hell Antoni,

what a nice little treasure you got there-I envy you;just saw it last night on F/B...
As I said,is there anything left or did you pick it all up [Big Grin]

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on June 24, 2009, 01:36 AM:

Found on EBay 35 mm with (or) for MAKARIOS (Cyprus).
For those that might be interested.

http://cgi.ebay.de/35mm-2-Rollen-Makarios_W0QQitemZ270413538188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_DVDs?hash=item3ef5e7238c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318% 7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Posted by John H Bevardos (Member # 1642) on June 24, 2009, 08:35 AM:

Hi Antonis, ti kanis.

I live in Los Angeles- Greek family in Nauplion-. Are super 8 films of greece , wether pro or amature avail in film circles there?
efgaristo
John Bevardos

Posted by George Patoulidis (Member # 452) on June 24, 2009, 02:22 PM:

errr, just to say hi to all Greeks! A "greek topic" on 8mm forum... I couldn't imagine that.
Hi Yanis!
BTW I haven't ever seen a greek 8mm film...

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on June 24, 2009, 04:47 PM:

Hello John.
Hello George.
It is good to see you around.
About Greek super 8mm films you just have to read our little topic from the beginning. You will find a lot of inf. About super 8mm films for Greece you can find a lot of amateur and professional productions all around the world (especially EBay world). The amateur films are usually vacation films of Europeans and Americans. It is very interesting to see how Greece was in 70’s, how Athens used to be, the old cars in the streets, the old busses, the street fashion of those days etc. It is fun to buy some of these old films and make a documentary of your own.
About pro productions for Greece you can find (as far as I know about) in :
1) TWA GETAWAY MOVIES (TW-810) a silent 200’ promotional film.
2) GREECE AND its BEAUTIFUL ISLANDS (E-2885) a 200’ sound documentary film.
3) SOCCER SPECIAL the final in Wembley between Panathinaikos and Ajax (1972).

Kalhnyxta for now!
Antonis

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on June 25, 2009, 04:57 AM:

.............Well, great to see more topics on Greek films or productions about Greece-thanks for the info Antoni,didn't know about the TWA film;seems you're not such a beginner after all [Wink]

....John,a very warm welcome to the Forum-kalos irthes! [Smile]

Hope we hear often from you!
....Thanks George,we've been a bit out of touch for awhile;how's our hobby in your side of Greece doing? Btw great facebook prof pic you have!
.....On the Makarios film: saw it in eBay Germany myself-but as I'm not in 35mm can't bid. Takh,if you're following this thread,
would you think Fotis might be interested? Worth letting him know I guess........
........well, keep the Greek film flag flying & will be back here soon again [Smile]

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on July 09, 2009, 03:08 AM:

Greek interest topic
Santorini Super 8mm Film Festival
http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004672

Posted by Dimitrios Kremalis (Member # 272) on July 09, 2009, 04:55 AM:

Great iniative!!! Unfortunately I won't make it :-(
But I'll try my best for next year...

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on July 09, 2009, 06:26 AM:

........wish I wasthere Antonh......... [Frown]

...all the best for that-& don't forget to put up as many pics as you can in F/B & here too-would be nice to advertise it to non-F/Bookers in the Forum [Wink]

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on July 09, 2009, 12:46 PM:

No need to be a Facebook member to see the photos. Just click on the link. These are the photos of 2008 festival.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2020646&id=1300698462&l=ac6879a246

I can not go to Santorini this weekend, but I asked from a friend (tin koumpara mou) that she is working at a Hotel in Santorini to go to Oia and get some photos. She is not sure if she will manage to do it, it is very difficult for her, but I hope she will make it at least for one day.

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on September 09, 2009, 01:47 PM:

About LEON FILMS (in 2006)

http://www.retromaniax.gr/vb/showthread.php?t=9780

A lot of photos but you have to be a member to see them.

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on October 17, 2009, 02:16 AM:

Greedings to the "Greek Mafia" at the BFCC. I hope next time to be with you!
Antonis

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on October 18, 2009, 06:19 AM:

...was good Antonh, and you were missed;sorry couldn't find something of interest to you re:your email [Frown]

....
....but take down the new date in your diary: March 20th [Wink]

....

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on November 14, 2009, 02:23 AM:

Stan and Laurel in Greek Karagouna dance - remix! Funny, with respect to the great comedians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r20gXd1Gd78

Just for fun
Antonis

P.S. Finally I booked for the next BFCC in March. I will be there too!

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on November 15, 2009, 05:15 AM:

...nice one Antonh, gave me a good larf [Big Grin]

!!
....on the BFCC,you can speak to the rest of the mafiosi on accommodation, travel to Ealing etc-actually you can join them! but we'll say more on that in a few weeks... [Wink]

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on December 25, 2009, 04:10 AM:

Merry Christmas!
Καλά Χριστούγεννα, χρόνια πολλά και όπως έλεγε και ο παππούς μου ο Αντώνης, πάντα αγάπη!
Antonis Galanakis

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on December 25, 2009, 07:17 PM:

In case it's of interest to some here, I'll mention another Kostas Karagiannis film that was shot in Greece was available on Super 8 (in English, no subtitles). "The Devil's Men" was released by PM Films of England and was available full length (5 x 400') or as a 400' abridged version.

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on December 27, 2009, 04:29 PM:

Thanks a lot Adrian, this is interesting indeed [Smile]

Do you actually own a copy of the film?

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on February 15, 2010, 04:21 PM:

Z 1969 Costa-Gavras Yves Montand Political 16mm FILM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Z-1969-Costa-Gavras-Yves-Montand-Political-16mm-FILM_W0QQitemZ200372196814QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Film?hash=item2ea71d15ce

Posted by Ilias Sifakis (Member # 2417) on January 24, 2011, 06:46 AM:

Hello guys,
new here from Greece also.
New to the hobbie,
have 4-5 movies already and i'll keep building my collection!

nice to be here [Wink]

Posted by Andreas Chmielewski (Member # 2208) on January 26, 2011, 12:04 PM:

I have never seen a Print from Greeke...or a print with greek subtitles.

I have prints from Italy/Spain/Germany/England/USA/Nederlands and France....but nothing from Greek

Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on January 28, 2011, 07:03 PM:

....no wonder Andreas-there were so few,so late & distributed only in Greece...
..for more details ask Antoni--he must own all remaining copies by now! [Razz]

PS Ilia,welcome aboard--& see my reply to Gerorge's thread [Wink]

Posted by Georgios Karamanolakis (Member # 2422) on January 29, 2011, 10:28 AM:

Hello Antonis.

Are you aware also about Adamo cartoon,it is italian from Avo film Milano from 1978 and it features Greek language in the audio!! [Big Grin]

(film ridotto da pellicola 35mm).

George

Posted by Antonis Galanakis (Member # 1455) on January 15, 2012, 07:56 AM:

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Greek film & projector collectors in Facebook group:
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