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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 30, 2009, 09:28 AM:
Hey folks!
How about this for a post? What do you feel is the best digest Disney put out from when they were releasing they're own films?
(pre-Derann). Note: This would not include the complete 200ft cartoons, as that is not a digest.
My personal nomination for the 200ft.
"I Wanna Be Like You" (Segment from Jungle Book)
I have always loved this rollicking good song from Jungle book, and the Disney studio wisely took this whole segment un-edited
and placed it on one reel.
My runner up I would have to label a 2X200ft.
"Best of Friends" and "Test of Courage" (segments from "The Fox and the Hound")
This was such a lovely film and in the case of the first one, it is an unedited segment when the two characters first meet and has that lovely song, "Best of Friends". Believe it or not, it has the ability to, to this day, bring a slight tear to my eye, and that is a really big feat. The second 200ft consists of the two characters as adults. It's mainly the whole ending with slight edits, and has the whole end sequence when the voices of them, as children are echo'd in the wind. Beautiful.
Best 400ft Digest
A Walt Disney Christmas
In this case, the Disney studio only did four instead of five cartoons to a 400ft digest, and that allowed for more complete cartoons, (though not full length).
first runner up:
Mickey and His Pals
This was a 400ft collection of sequences from many of the classic 1930's Mickey Donald ans Goofy cartoons and, as an extra, they had a little minute snippet from "Hawaiian Holiday", as if to say, after all they're adventures, they all go on vacation together. Splendid.
Second runner up ... The Black Hole
I just list this one as I admired the fact that Disney, instead of taking a lot of snippets from through-out the film, they instead took the complete "escape" sequence from the film. One wonders if they had originally meant to have a part 1 for this but declined to release it, which would have made this a great thirty minute digest.
There's my picks, what are yours?
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on June 30, 2009, 09:49 AM:
Osi,
My votes:
200ft An Evening with Lady and the Tramp
This is the great sequence where the Tramp takes Lady to Tony's for a spaghetti dinner, and includes the great song Bella Norte
400ft A Walt Disney Christmas
Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on June 30, 2009, 11:15 AM:
Osi, I agree with you about 'I wanna be like you'. One of my first super 8 films and I played it to death on my Eumig Mark S. But can we really call it a digest? as a digest IMO should tell the whole story in the reel and be edited. Mabye Im picking holes. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Graham S
Posted by Mike Tynus (Member # 1108) on June 30, 2009, 12:14 PM:
Mine would be THE THREE CABELLEROS.
Played it constantly and later had to get a replacement copy.
Though it sadly ends right before the hilarious beach sequence, it does have the stuck-in-the-soundtrack gag with Donald and most of the main theme song with some live action shown. The sound quality is excellent as well.
Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on June 30, 2009, 03:28 PM:
Since I have only seen/owned about one third of the classic 200 foot Disney releases, my vote is less accurate. But, of the 15 to 20 Disney 200's I own, the most repeatable, crowd pleasers are-
1: Match of the Century (from Bedknobs & Broomsticks).
2: Super-Nanny (Mary Poppins)
3: Prince and the Dragon (Sleeping Beauty)
James
Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on June 30, 2009, 06:38 PM:
200ft sound MONSTER FROM UNDER THE SEA (20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA EXTRACT)
200ft sound THE BLACK HOLE a nice,well edited version of the film.
Pat ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 30, 2009, 09:39 PM:
Patrick ...
I have always had a question about that 200ft of "Black Hole"
The 400ft starts right at the point when the astronauts are running to get to probe ship, (after they're own ship is destroyed) and it has the unedited section all the way up to the probe ship taking off.
What is the edit of the 200ft digest? I'd love to find out that its got a lot of stuff not on the 400ft.
I see where your coming from on "I Wanna Be Like You" The Disney "digests" tended to be whole scenes but quite frankly, I kind of prefer that to an eight minute version of a film, only giving perhaps a minute or less of prime scenes, which is why I have very few digests in my collection.
Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on July 01, 2009, 08:09 AM:
Have to agree with Osi. The one Disney reel from that era that holds up perfectly...( even the color on mine is still pretty good) is Wanna Be Like You. Just a delightful and very repeatable little reel. I bought it new when it was released..and I imagine it's been run more times than all the other dozens of Disney reels put together.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 08:26 AM:
Best 200ft - THE WINNER IS: THE SORCERER'S APPRENTICE (from 'Fantasia').
Best 400ft - ...AND THE WINNER IS: Mickey Mouse: THE FIRST 50 YEARS .
The 200ft edited version of THE ARISTOCATS was, in my opinion, a very good digest.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 01, 2009, 08:47 AM:
Gian!
Good job. I had completely forgotten about "Micky Mouse - The First Fifty Years" That is a well structured "mini documentary", complete with fade ins/out, dissolves ect. They put a good deal of thought into that one.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 09:32 AM:
Thanks Osi ! It's actually one of my favorite.
Posted by Jeroen van Ooijen (Member # 1104) on July 01, 2009, 10:09 AM:
My favorites are : Whistle while you work 200ft
A Walt Disney Christmas 400ft
Cinderellas surprise dress 200ft
An evening with lady and the tramp 200ft
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 01, 2009, 11:50 AM:
Gian, I forgot to mention that "The Sorcerors Apprentice is a ood stand alone digest, as well as allows me to add it to my Fantasia 2000.
Was that ever released as part of Fantasia 2000?
My "classic Era" Disney print of this has a slight warming to the blacks, but the rest of the colors are spot on! This is a definite candidate for a re-recording in stereo, come to think of it, and I have the Laserdisc restored version to work with as well.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 12:20 PM:
Osi,
You probably know some sequences from FANTASIA 2000 are available at Derann (the full feature too, of course!). But I'm sure that THE SORCERER'S APPRENTICE has never been officially released in LPP.
My USA print is the same way yours is: very good color, but slight warming to the blacks. The Italian one I also own in my collection is really better (weird, but true): no fade and absolutely stunning.
Some of my WALT DISNEY HOME MOVIES - both Italian and American editions - are actually in this pictures (the ones in the back are simply trailers) ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 01, 2009, 02:52 PM:
A wonderful collection!
I saw a few Fantasia segment boxes in the back. Is there anyway that you can single those out and give us a picture of the boxes?
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 03:46 PM:
Thanks Osi. You are always so kind.
If you falks (of course you too, Osi) are interested in some of these 'hand made' covers for Derann trailers and short/cut downs just write me:
gloncri (at) hotmail (dot) it
Some of them are really very well done!
I would be happy to supply them. In case, you just have to print them, cut and glue on the white plane boxes trailers are normally supplied by Derann (size is the right one. No need to adjust it). Or put them inside 200 ft plastic cases (that's my way !).
This is the list of all available artworks:
Disney's Trailers
- SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS
- PINOCCHIO
- FANTASIA
- DUMBO
- BAMBI
- CINDERELLA
- SONG OF THE SOUTH
- SLEEPING BEAUTY
- 101 DALMATIANS (Italian credits)
- ALADDIN
- HERCULES
- THE LITTLE MARMAID (Italian credits)
- LADY AND THE TRAMP (Italian credits)
- THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME (Italian credits)
- POCAHONTAS
- THE LION KING
- THE JUNGLE BOOK
- THE FOX AND THE HOUND
- WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?
- TARZAN
- TOY STORY
- A BUG'S LIFE
- CARS
Miscellaneous Trailers
- Once Upon a Time in the West
- Saturday Night Fever
- The Silence of the Lambs
- Schindler's List
- Batman Forever
- Titanic
- Saving Private Ryan
- The Truman Show
- Gladiator
- Signs
- King Kong
Shorts and Excerpts
- Video Killed the Radio Star
- Can't Stop the Music (400 ft)
- Another Brick in the Wall
- The Fifth Element (400 ft)
- The Mines of Moria (400 ft)
- Madagascar Penguins in a Christmas Caper (400 ft)
- Gladiator (both excerpts on 400 ft)
Others
- Playground Skirmish (Matrix Reloaded)
- Summer Nights (Grease)
- Santa's Workshop
- The Night Before Christmas (Disney)
- The Night Before Christmas (Tom And Jerry)
- For The Birds (Pixar)
- The Soup Song
All being PDFs, I cannot post them here because of their size. So, if you want to receive a sample just to have an idea, let me know. Of course I will be happy to supply them for free!
Just write down a line here, first, to avoid to be excluded from my white mailing list.
CIAO
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 06:02 PM:
Sorry. I went out of thread!
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 01, 2009, 06:26 PM:
Osi Osgood wrote:
quote:
Best 400ft Digest
A Walt Disney Christmas
Gian Luca Mario Loncrini wrote:
quote:
Best 200ft - THE WINNER IS: THE SORCERER'S APPRENTICE (from 'Fantasia').
Best 400ft - ...AND THE WINNER IS: Mickey Mouse: THE FIRST 50 YEARS .
Osi and Gian...I just got them....not extremely cheap, but below the usual price:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=200353700379
For GBP 11.49 is not bad because usually Walt Disney Christmas alone will go for GBP 15 and Sorcerer's Apprentice is around GBP 12, while Mickey 50th Years is the cheapest ones always around GBP 5
So it is good to get them in one hit... good for shipping and hopefully they are in good stock and good colours (knowing they are from the UK).
I am happy indeed ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
,
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 06:44 PM:
All three together, Winbert! You were more than lucky! Good reason to be as happy as you are. Enjoy them!
Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on July 01, 2009, 07:03 PM:
When were digests for Hercules, Aladdin and the others I see in strange clamshell cases in the top row of the picture released? I've never seen those.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on July 01, 2009, 07:09 PM:
Hi Brad,
clamshell cases in the back contain some Disney's trailers, as specified in one of my previous posts. Artworks are a 'creation' of a friend of mine, also collector .
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 01, 2009, 07:55 PM:
Wow! All three for 12 pounds! Do they all have decent color?
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 01, 2009, 08:02 PM:
Osi,
As I am in Toronto and those films were only sent within UK, so they are with my brother there, and I don't know how are their condition.
But having seen the boxes (esp. Mickey 50th) they seem to be later releases. So finger crossed to have LPP (for Christmas) and Fuji (for Mickey 50th and Apprentice).
cheers,
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 01, 2009, 08:17 PM:
Boy, I know how that is. I just bought a 400ft STAR WARS, just for the hell of it and unfortunately, the KODAK SP was faded. I would love to find a good color print of this 400ft, just for old times sake.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 04, 2009, 05:01 PM:
A most befuddling thing
Here's on of the rarest WALT DISNEY HOME MOVIES excerpt for sale on Ebay.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 05, 2009, 01:53 AM:
WOW! Already gone!
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on November 05, 2009, 10:43 PM:
My Picts in this order:
Dwarfs Dilemma
An Evening with the Lady and the Tramp
Duel of the Wizards
Sorceror's Apprentice.
I bought the Snow White first, because it was the first animated feature.
Posted by Daniel Beijar (Member # 1577) on November 07, 2009, 02:57 AM:
Kind of an old topic, but my best Disney digest is "The Aristocats meet the Scat Cats". Not really a digest at all because it is a sequence from the movie, but it makes a good movie on its own, kind of like a Disney short. My copy has the most excellent color in my collection, no fade at all. And sense the segment is very colorful it really brings out the best in Super 8!
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 07, 2009, 03:47 AM:
I do agree, Daniel.
All copies I had of this excerpt had stunning color. The one I actually own in my collection is (incredible but true) on Agfa.
Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on November 07, 2009, 04:43 AM:
Daniel
Scat Cat has to be my favourite Disney 200fter as well. The colour on mine has held up well. The only complaint I have is that my copy has one of Perrys irremovable stickers on the box obscuring the art work! ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Mike
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 07, 2009, 09:50 AM:
My three favorite digests are ...
MIckey's Memorable Moments 2 (probably because it took me so long to get a good color copy)
A Walt Disney Christmas Excellent repeatable digest
Mickey and his Pals A great collection of those 1930's "trio" cartoons!
200ft
I Wanna Be Like You (another great complete sequence digest)
200ft non digest (complete cartoons)
The Old Mill
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on November 07, 2009, 10:24 AM:
Let's not forget "The Dapper Dalmatian". This is the first 8 minutes from the feature and it is perfect!
Most of my Disney releases were printed at Buck Film Laboratories and they still have great color.
Doug
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on November 07, 2009, 10:27 AM:
The Beautiful Briny,
is a good one too.
taken
from Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 07, 2009, 01:16 PM:
My full edition of BEDKNOBS is still very good. But the excerpt you are referring to, Michael, unfortunately is not ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
...
Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on November 07, 2009, 01:30 PM:
Gian Luca,
I do not comprehend your reply regarding the beautiful briny.
Please help.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 07, 2009, 01:41 PM:
Sorry Michael. I meant the full feature I own in super 8 (Italian print and edition) is still in good condition. But THE BEAUTIFUL BRINY excerpt by Walt Disney Home Movies I have in my collection has totally turned pink .
Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on November 10, 2009, 07:59 AM:
Hi guys-
Gian-
About Sword and Stone extract: I NEVER even knew it existed! Thanks for the Link. About Briney: Mine has very good color. However, my other Bedknobs extract (Match of Century) is totally pink!
My personal Disney 200 foot super 8 favorites:
Albetros Airlines (Rescuers extract)
Prince & the Dragon (Sleeping Beauty)
The Old Mill (classic all the way!)
Now, for my most-requested audience (kids) pleasers-
1. Match of the Century (Bedknobs)
2. Prince & the Dragon (Sleeping Beauty)
3. Super Nanny (Mary Poppins).
James.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 10, 2009, 08:25 AM:
Hello James, how are you? It's a VERY rare excerpt indeed. That was the second one I've seen in my entire life (the first is the one I own in my collection ).
I hope to find a good print of THE BEAUTIFUL BRINY, one day.
Ciao!
Posted by Jeroen van Ooijen (Member # 1104) on November 10, 2009, 10:03 AM:
I have that beautiful briny too!
My favorite cartoon is the ugly ducking,but i have a very poor quality,so i hope to found someday a good one.
First Pocahontas.
Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on November 10, 2009, 10:34 AM:
Jeroen, did you have my mail about those trailers? Let me know.
CIAO.
Posted by Jeroen van Ooijen (Member # 1104) on November 10, 2009, 01:27 PM:
Oh yes they don't have it but thanks for asking very kind of you!
Can you look for Pocahontas?i'll do it too!
Posted by Thomas Murin, Jr. (Member # 1745) on November 10, 2009, 11:06 PM:
Given that I've only been collecting for a couple of months, I only have two Disney digests but they are good ones!
Brer Rabbit & The Tar Baby: A nice, only slightly edited excerpt from Song Of The South. The color has not faded on my print but has warmed a bit.
Robin Hood Rescues Maid Marian: An entire scene from the movie. Everything from the archery tournament to the free-for-all fight. Like Brer Rabbit, it's just slightly edited to fit on a 200' reel. Good color on my print, with just a hint of warming (less than Brer Rabbit).
Posted by James N. Savage 3 (Member # 83) on November 11, 2009, 10:47 AM:
I can't remember, but is there a full list posted somewhere that lists ALL of the Disney super 8 releases from the 70's/80's (like the U8 or MGM/Ken list)?
If not, could somebody post one please??
Thanks .
James.
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on November 11, 2009, 01:25 PM:
quote:
is there a full list posted somewhere that lists ALL of the Disney super 8 releases from the 70's/80's
Yes we do have that list in one or two posts (one even with its parallel title in German releases).
I hope Admin/moderator can make an index for all list we had made (like index for Film Reviews) and make it as a sticky post like Super 8mm Film Distributors and Sellers (please delete Derann's ONLY list since it is redundant with the Distributors and sellers list)
thanks
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