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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 08, 2009 12:53 PM

I know that Elmo reel is an excellent item,

http://cgi.ebay.com/1200-ELMO-SUPER-8MM-FILM-REEL_W0QQitemZ110430483887QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b62b75af&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

But $66 9still 20 minutes to go) does sound to much for me.

I saw last week an EByaer offered many of his films in that kind of reel (+ the same box too) which ended at around $40sh.

What you think guys?

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Michael O'Regan
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posted September 08, 2009 01:21 PM

I don't know a whole lot about 8mm but,from what I've observed these are sought after items and do sometimes go for quite a high price.

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Bill Phelps
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posted September 08, 2009 05:47 PM

Winbert,

I also saw the recent ebay seller who had quite a few films he was selling and they where all on these 1200' Elmo reels.

I saw some of the auctions end pretty reasonable considering the digest compilations on them plus the Elmo reel.

$66 is a bit much. I have one of these reels and it is very nice. It runs true and is lightweight.(aluminum)

Since I only have one I don't store anything on it I just use it for shows. Feed or take-up.

Bill

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Joe Taffis
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From: United States
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posted September 08, 2009 06:03 PM

Poopy made out well on that deal! [Big Grin]

If anyone is interested in a few at that price; I have some I would part with! [Wink]

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Paul Adsett
Film God

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posted September 08, 2009 06:41 PM

The Elmo 1200ft reel is quite simply the best reel I have ever used - lightweight non-magnetic Aluminum alloy, and very true running, and they have that special hub material which really grabs the film leader. In comparison, I hate the heavy magnetic Goldberg 1200ft steel reels.

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Jose Artiles
Master Film Handler

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posted September 08, 2009 07:25 PM

For who it may concern theres a compañy in Spain,in Barcelona that made almost the same reel as elmo in lightweight aluminum alloy,the name of the compañy is Julio Castells,he made reels and cans completely on aluminum and made long play units and automatic rewind benchs too at very good prices,almost all the spanish collector buy from him the reels and can to store our films.here is a photo taking from the spanish super 8mm forum that shows the reels and a little the long play unit for s-8 that can take more than 2 hours of continuos projection

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Claus Harding
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posted September 08, 2009 08:15 PM

Jose,

I could use some large reels for my long play unit.
How much are those reels and how does one buy them?

Claus.

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted September 09, 2009 04:53 AM

In the UK most dealers tend to sell the Elmo 1200ft spools for about £12 -15 each which I personally think is a reasonable price.

If you sell features to the dealers they will invariably spool them down onto 600 foot spools so they can sell the 1200 footers seperately (more profit).

This is an interesting topic because sometimes when I have offered features for sale on the forum people have said "oh your price is to high" but then they dont take into account the Elmo 1200ft spools they are mounted on and indeed dont want to either. They only ever look at the cost of the film itself. I have probably lost loads of dosh where Elmo spools are concerned. Maybe its time to put any films for sale on to cores and sell the spools seperately especially as the Elmo spools are more difficult to find now.

Kev

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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
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posted September 09, 2009 08:01 AM

A Google search found the 8mm spanish film forum, but nothing on Julio Castells. I'd like more information on his long play unit.

Anyone?

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Peter van Zand
Film Handler

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From: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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posted September 09, 2009 08:24 AM

That longplay unit looks wonderful, I too like to find out more, I want it! I use a 16mm Eiki longplayunit with 8mm adaptors now, but I'd love to have one of these.

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Keith Ashfield
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posted September 09, 2009 08:28 AM

Try this address -

JULIO CASTELLS GUINART
CINE EQUIPOS Y MATERIALES: VENTA Y ALQUILER.
Ferlandina, 20
08001 BARCELONA
Tel 933 025 692

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Chip Gelmini
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posted September 09, 2009 10:39 AM

That phone number does not work. I have tried several times and am getting nowhere. Dialing 011-43- number listed from the usa

Anyone?

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Maurizio Di Cintio
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posted September 09, 2009 10:44 AM

Wonderful! Now even the GS 1200 can top the Fumeo performance in terms of non-stop screening.
But from what I see in the picture, if you keep the film path that way, you will scratch its base as it keeps passing on a 50' reel core before getting into the projector. I think you should find a solution featuirng some sort of roller.

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Keith Ashfield
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posted September 09, 2009 11:02 AM

Chip, try dialing 011 034 ????

http://www.paginasamarillas.es/cinematografia_barcelona_862_298_7.html

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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
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posted September 09, 2009 03:29 PM

I dunno guys. If that girl in the picture runs the projector, it might be hard to keep my eyes on the screen. And there are two reasons:

1. See how full that upper reel is. When it's on the lower reel, the film will scratch on the Elmo projector housing cover (look at the film near the final take up roller)

2. Do I really have to tell you what the 2nd reason is? [Big Grin]

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Jose Artiles
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From: Spain
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posted September 09, 2009 03:35 PM

"I could use some large reels for my long play unit.
How much are those reels and how does one buy them?

Claus."
Hi Claus
the cost of the reel made by Julio castell is about 25-30 euros for a 600 meters reel,normally he sells the reel with a aluminum can if you want.I own a long play unit made by him and its wonderfull the only problem maybe is the drive belt that is made of iron but if you use a polycord belt as a substitute works great.

"if you keep the film path that way, you will scratch its base as it keeps passing on a 50' reel core before getting into the projector. I think you should find a solution featuirng some sort of roller.

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Maurizio"
Hi Mauricio,yes you are rigth,the 50 feet reel is just for the photo,normally the projection is made with a small aluminum reel that is put in the feed arm.
The long play unit cost is about 200 euros in 2006

Chip,dear forum friend,try to put the number 34 as Keith sugested,34 is the international phone code for spain.

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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
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posted September 10, 2009 10:26 AM

I finally got the number to work.

They answered in French. No matter how many times I asked, no translator available.

Jose can you help me with this?

All I want to know is how much is that take up unit for large reels, is it compatible with USA voltage and can they sell only the take up unit not the upper supply reel holder.

If anyone here can help me with the basic information that would be great.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted September 11, 2009 04:46 AM

Hi,

"in French"? That's strange - as the shop is located in Barcelona, I would have expected them to speak Spanish (Castilian) or Catalan (or both)... [Big Grin]

Jörg

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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
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posted September 11, 2009 07:44 AM

I didn't get very far on the phone, and at this point I am quite frustrated with it.....

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Jose Artiles
Master Film Handler

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From: Spain
Registered: Oct 2005

posted September 11, 2009 09:31 PM

Hi chip!
I will try to call them this monday,they speak catalan ( a variant of the spanish) and of course spanish.The price of the unit when i buy a few years ago was 200 euros maybe now is a little bit more expensive.I will do the questions for you when i call them,if someone of the forum want something more just e mail me and i´ll try to help.

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Jose Artiles
Master Film Handler

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From: Spain
Registered: Oct 2005

posted September 15, 2009 06:24 PM

Well,first of all my apologies to chip and forum members for not post the answer of Mr. Castell this two days ago but im very very busy this two days because we receive more than 500 new films from a late collector and i was in the process of cleaning,inspecting etc.Well for all who is interested Mr. castell still ake all kind of reel from small to really biger sizes,prices depending on the size of course..10 euros for a 180 meter aluminum with can and 70 euros for a 2000 meters aluminum rell..yes im ot made a mistake i order one of it monday morning to store my print of "gone with the wind".

Dear Chip about your questions...he told me that he only sell the complete unit and for the moment the unit is only avaliable on 220V for european countries because is almost imposible for him to find a correct motor who works at 110-120V in Spain.The price for the long play unit is about 300 euros now.

IF someone want to know someting more about this i can help if you cant speak spanish.just give a little time to call Mr. Castells here in Spain and i try to help all of you with all your question

Thats all folks! [Big Grin]

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