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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on December 02, 2009, 09:43 PM:

I just got a call from my home country that somone offered me a GS1200. A picture has been sent, and probably this is the ugliest GS1200 you have ever seen. Here we go:

As you can see, there are a lot of rust (something that very common in this humid country). Below is a close up:

I am told that the machine is in a working order, only need a new belt. It comes with all the accessories as you can see here:

So I am so lucky that a rare remote control is included in the offer.

So:

1. Anyone know what version is the GS above (1, 2 or 3)
2. Can I re-paint the ugly part? Do I need to remove the original pain with sand paper? Can Ugo give me a clue how to paint it.

cheers,

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on December 02, 2009, 10:00 PM:

Hey Winbert,

Maybe with a little persistence you can get replacement panels off a dead donor machine.

What concerns me is so much visible corrosion. I wonder what is happening internally that the photos can't reveal. This could be nasty on circuit boards and switch contacts (etc.)

Still the same: if the price is right, why not have a go at it.

Posted by Dan Lail (Member # 18) on December 02, 2009, 10:11 PM:

Winbert,

Ugo has painted GS-1200 panels. I would remove the panel and buff it with three ought steel wool, then spray several thin coats of paint. Be sure to let each coat dry before apllying the next one. You can carefully tape of logos, and names with masking tape cutting around them with an exacto knife. Like
Steve said visually check the circuit boards. You can spray them with contact cleaner.

Heck! It's worth at least $50.00. [Big Grin]

Like Neal Young said "rust never sleeps", but this could be a sleeping beauty. [Cool]

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on December 02, 2009, 10:13 PM:

I believe the lines (as opposed to dots) on the volume controls make it a version 3. Amazing to see one with a casing that's so corroded - looks like it has been left outdoors for months. The remote looks good, though!

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on December 02, 2009, 10:16 PM:

Maybe about ten coats of candy-apple metallic laquer...

...and a racing stripe!

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on December 02, 2009, 10:53 PM:

Like most have said, I'd be concerned about what's hidden. Oh, that looks like it's a version 3... the loop restorer is pointed toward the back.

A GS was just on Ebay with a buy-it-now of $750 US.... so I click the button, and someone beat me to it about 45 seconds earlier!

Still looking here!!!!!!

Oh, Steve... wouldn't that make it look like the Starsky & Hutch car? [Razz]

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on December 02, 2009, 11:06 PM:

-roughly the same vintage!

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on December 03, 2009, 01:14 AM:

Winbert,
contact Ugo. He is a real magician. I know for sure every GS he touches becomes pratically a shining almost-brand new one [Wink]

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on December 03, 2009, 03:01 AM:

Geeeeeeeeeez.....was this found underwater???

[Smile]

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on December 03, 2009, 10:32 AM:

Hi guys,

Thanks for the input and as I mentioned earlier, this is the ugliest machine you may have ever seen.

But as many times I told you, living in Indonesia is bad for our hobby due to the climate (hot and humid), albeit as a tropical country is a heaven for people who love surfing, beach, etc we have beautiful sunny days for the whole year [Cool]

I mentioned in this thread why I am so obsessed to get as many as possible those vintage/retro items (which is my focus) during my terms here, because in Indonesia:

quote:
1. 40 to 50 years ago, Indonesia was still poor (now there is some progress but it is still a developing country) so TV and those entertainment equipments were only owned by certain people.

2. Climate issue: if from point 1 above there were equipments left, the next challenge is termites, rust and fungus. Indonesia is tropical country with hot and humid for the whole year. If the items was made from wood, it would have been destroy by termites. If the items was made from metal/tin, they have been covered by rust. And if they made from plastic or clothes, it would have been fungus around.

So getting someone called me yesterday letting me know that there is a GS1200 (a Roll Royce of the projector) is quite surprising for me. I've seen ST-800 couple a time in Indonesia but cannot believe someone spent around $2000 for a home entertainment back in 1980s. It was quite a lot of money for that time (and now too!)

I don't know what is the history behind this machine but the corroded part was not because it was left outside or poured with water, but any machine that we left at home without a humid control will be like that.

The Machine was told to be working, my brother has seen that the motor did turn and the bulb was on. So I just need to deal with belt (which is not expensive) and cleaning up the rust.

I will keep this machine because I don't think I will never find that anymore, unless I would spend $750 here (which I don't think so). If it does not work due to the corrode in the board, I think it will only be used as a display. As long as I have this projector in my room, so I can "register" my name in the GS1200 family clan [Big Grin]

Anyway to make this becomes beautiful looks, I will follow Ugo's tricks to cover all the panel so I can re-paint it with new color (what do you think is the best, Gian?). I was thinking to change the gray colour into metal chrome and keep the black with mat color.

So the projector will look like a futuristic (retro) machine, something like many items I found now. At least something like this:

other machine:

and finally, last but not least:

So, what do you think with my color for this ugly GS?

ps: O yeah BTW, as Steve Klare says above

quote:
"
Still the same: if the price is right, why not have a go at it."

.... this machine was offered at the same price when you fill your car with gas (full tank) [Razz]

cheers,

Posted by Gian Luca Mario Loncrini (Member # 1417) on December 03, 2009, 11:05 AM:

quote:
What do you think is the best, Gian?

Dear Winbert, about painting the panels...

Ugo is in a position to do whatever you want. If you want the orignal color, he can do it. If you want another one, he can also do it. It's just up on you. But be sure, first, the projector really works.

When it was time to re-paint my Xenon, Ugo had suggested me a couple of ideas. I was excited about the possibility to have a machine not grey as the other GSs I already own. So I accepted the idea he had in his crazy mind (just as a compliment, Ugo).
And the result was really amazing.

Ask him or try, at least, to tell him the idea you have. I'm sure he will find the way to satisfy you.

Ugo is a genious, when the matter is GS 1200. But he's also a very creative man and foolish enough to make things the way collectors want. Or at least collectors would like. The electric blue he created by mixing up different colors for mine, gave as a result a pearly projector. Shining even when not working!
I'm sure your GS will shine soon too! I wish you the machine is really in working order.

All the best, my friend.
Ciao.

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on December 03, 2009, 11:14 AM:

Hi Winbert,
If I had this machine I would not even plug it in to check it out at this point. First thing I would do is remove the back cover and clean everything in sight with a shop-vac fitted with the small extension for cleaning electronics. Then wipe everything with q-tips soaked in alcohol. You need to get the PC boards spotlessly clean by carefully cleaning both sides of the boartd by hand to remove all crud and corrosion. The GS is full of microswitches and relays and you may end up having to replace them, depending on which functions do not work. Only when you have cleaned everything, and I mean everything you can access without stripping the machine down, would I plug it in and attempt to start checking it out.

Posted by Stewart John Boyle (Member # 1785) on December 03, 2009, 11:53 AM:

Wise words Paul.
This Machine needs lots of T.L.C. A few careful hours of making sure everything internal has been carefully cleaned,creates a sort of bond between man and machine,you get to know it like a lover..
Good luck with it Winbert [Smile]

Stewart

Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on December 03, 2009, 02:34 PM:

This could be the beginning of an ongoing thread:

Winbert's Phoenix Rising from the Ashes.....I must say that cover is painful to look at [Big Grin]

Claus.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on December 03, 2009, 02:48 PM:

quote:
this machine was offered at the same price when you fill your car with gas (full tank)

Winbert, working or not, you got an absolute bargain!!

Graham S

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