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Michael Wright
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From: Chorley, Lancashire, England
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posted January 28, 2010 02:24 AM

I've seen this offered on their website, has anyone used it or knows what stock this is? Thanks MIKE

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Bart Smith
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posted January 28, 2010 04:40 AM

As far as I'm aware the 50ASA is Fuji Velvia, and the 100ASA is Kodak Ektachrome 100D.

Kahl has a reputation for being a bit secretive (or possible just a bit uncommunicative) so I wouldn't hold my breath for any confirmation from them.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted January 28, 2010 05:06 AM

Hi,

some of their films are rumoured to be based on Agfa-slide-stocks... however Kahl doesn't tell and so one can only guess...

Jörg

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Alexander Lechner
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posted January 28, 2010 05:45 AM

I have used both the 50 and the 100 ASA films by Kahl and with the 100 ASA one I would also guess that it is Ektachrome. I doubt very much that the 50 ASA film is Fuji Velvia, it doesn't really fit colour impression wise; what gets me with the 50 ASA Kahl stock is that it doesn't produce the same "sharpness" that the 100 ASA stock does.

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Claus Harding
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posted January 29, 2010 01:26 PM

Since we are talking Kahl:
I have looked at their fine-grain B/W film offerings, and I was curious, but since I can't find anyone who has tried those stocks, and since Kahl wants to develop the film themselves, it doesn't seem practical for me in the US.

Claus.

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Bart Smith
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posted January 29, 2010 03:06 PM

Hi Claus,

If you're talking about the Kahl Dokument 12, I'm pretty sure this is Kodak 5363/7363.

If so Pro8mm do the same emulsion in Super 8: Super 8/63 B&W Reversal - 10ASA

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Claus Harding
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posted January 29, 2010 06:21 PM

Bart,

Thank you for that heads-up! I am just about to try some Pro-8 stocks, so next time around I will look for that very slow one.

Claus.

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Michael Wright
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posted January 30, 2010 01:54 AM

Hi Alexander, how does the Kahl 50asa compare to Ektachrome T64? Thanks MIKE

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Yanis Tzortzis
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posted January 30, 2010 06:55 AM

........is there any chance we'll see Kahl or any other company exporting 8mm here in the UK and breaking the monopoly of Kodak 64 at all??

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Simon McConway
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posted January 30, 2010 07:32 AM

I have used Spectra Film & Video 100D in the Super 8 format; outstanding!

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Bart Smith
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posted January 30, 2010 07:54 AM

I've got Ektachrome 100D for sale, but only in Standard 8.

I haven't added it to my website yet, if anyone is interested they can email me using shopatbluecinetechdotcodotuk

I've also got 7362 B&W 10 ASA, and Plus-X. The Plus-X isn't spooled up yet, so I can't sell any of that immediately.

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Alexander Lechner
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posted January 30, 2010 12:26 PM

Hi Michael!
Here are two screenshots (off a film editor - that's why they are so bad [Wink]

), the first E64T (Super8) and the second one Kahl UT18 (Standard8). My opinion is that the colours on the Kahl are very natural but there is always the issue with the sharpness; E64T's colours are very strong and the grain is much more obvious.
Ektachrome 64T:

Kahl UT18:

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Michael Wright
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posted January 30, 2010 04:13 PM

Thanks Alex, I guess the only thing to do is to try it for myself and make my own mind up Thanks again MIKE

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