8mm Forum: Betty Boop on Super 8

This is topic Betty Boop on Super 8 in forum 8mm Forum at 8mm Forum.

To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=005459

Posted by Brian James (Member # 1056) on May 09, 2010, 03:07 PM:

Can anyone tell me how many Betty Boop cartoons are out on Super 8 sound?
Thanks.

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 11, 2010, 08:21 PM:

Brian,

Ivy Films released these Betty Boop titles in Super 8 sound/color:

Betty Boop for President
Betty Boop's Penthouse
Ha Ha Ha
I'll Be Glad When You're Dead You Rascal You
Minnie the Moocher
Rise to Fame
Snow White

Phil Johnson has these silent 50' Carnival Films available on his site:
Auto Racer Fairy Tales
Rubberland
Magic Mirror
S.O.S.
Betty Boop Express

Doug

Posted by Brian James (Member # 1056) on May 12, 2010, 12:19 AM:

Thanks Douglas, much appreciated

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on May 12, 2010, 08:01 PM:

How was the color job on the IVY titles?

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on May 13, 2010, 07:19 PM:

Brad,

I got those titles from an old "Reel Images" catalog. I don't have any in my collecton.

Doug

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on May 15, 2010, 04:49 PM:

Color was excellent in the IVY prints,but a) they are shortened, b) the process has derived them of the subtle details of the original b&w animation. Get them only if you are desperate. Several companies in america and england sold complete b&w prints. BETTY BOOP'S RISE TO FAME, MINNIE THE MOOCHER, PARADE OF THE WOODEN SOLDIERS, BETTY BOOP'S MUSEUM. BETTY IN BLUNDERLAND, BETTY BOOP'S SNOW WHITE,BIMBO'S INITIATION, THE DANCING FOOL, PARADE OF THE WOODEN SOLDIERS, BOOP-OOP-A DOOP, DIZZY RED RIDING HOOD, NO NO A THOUSAND TIMES NO, BETTY BOOP WITH POPEYE THE SAILOR,CRAZY TOWN,BETTY BOOP LIFEGUARD,KEEP IN STYLE, are the pre-code ones I know that are available. Her only original color appearance, in the "color classic" POOR CINDERELLA has survived,and is available, only in b&w. (Her cameo in WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT? is also in b&w)! A few of her later films with Pudgy and Grumpy are also available,like HAPPY YOU,MERRY ME, MY FRIEND THE MONKEY,HOT AIR SALESMAN, BETTY AND HENRY, BABY BE GOOD, BETTY AND THE LITTLE KING, DING DONG DOGGIE, THE CANDID CANDIDATE, but are not so good.
BETTY BOOP'S BAMBOO ISLE is also available in a colorized print.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on May 16, 2010, 03:16 PM:

I have 'I HEARD' colorized print.

Derann release. They might still have it, in their last catalogue.

Graham S

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on May 16, 2010, 03:44 PM:

Add ,from Thunderbird, BE HUMAN, BETTY BOOP M.D., BETTY BOOP'S TRIAL, HOUSE CLEANING BLUES, KEEP IN STYLE, MOTHER GOOSELAND.

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on May 17, 2010, 03:36 PM:

and BETTY BOOP AND LITTLE JIMMY from Jef.

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on May 18, 2010, 08:57 PM:

Why and How are the IVY color prints abbreviated? Why edit them - what are they 6-7 minutes each. What is there to edit?

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on May 21, 2010, 11:29 AM:

I too, have a colorized print of "I Heard". One of the good jokes was completely missed by the process.
In the original black/white version the miners are all covered in black "soot" from their coal digging. They go into a shower and come out pristine clear and white for their lunch break. When the hooter blows at the end of lunch they go back through the shower and become once again all-over black before going underground to resume their work.
In the "colour" version they just have different shades of before and after green. Joke missed.

Maurice

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on May 21, 2010, 05:18 PM:

Awwwwww, Crap! Forget it! I'll pass. And IVY used to put out some real nice stuff. My copy of "Road To Bali" is really nice and the colors are still pretty decent considering the fact that the prints are over 30 years old.

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on May 23, 2010, 06:00 AM:

The colorized prints were reduced to approximately five minutes. The first thing to go were the live action appearances of the great musicians who appeared in them. Forget them and go for the b&w ones. They are worthy.

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on October 18, 2011, 07:35 AM:

Just digging up this old row of posts as one day it would be nice to have a complete list of the re-processed Betty Boop cartoons. As we know the old black & white frames were manually traced onto new cells for the colorization to take place in the 60’s/70’s and apparently to make them more attractive to what would have possibly been a new audience for them in colour. Super 8 Betty fans seem to have been well catered for over the years and hunting down the re-processed films is worth the effort even if they were in fact cut for the television market which was a shame to be sure. The last we collected was ‘I Heard’ which is a joy to view and certainly colourful, excuse the play on words.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on October 18, 2011, 01:08 PM:

Panayotis is quite correct in his post. These bastardized Betty's were done in the 70's and are atrocious. Instead of coloring each and every frame, lets say 24 fps, they would only color perhaps (if you were lucky) 12 fps.

Therefore, all the fine craftmanship of the original films was destroyed in the process. The same was done to many other syudio's B/W cartoons, (Warner Brothers, Columbia, ect).

By all means, if you are A lover of the great Boop, steer clear of all but one of the color Betty's ...

Poor Cinderella

This one was the only Betty made in color by the4 Fleischer studio during thier original run. It was done in the two strip technicolor, but they did a fine job with the range that they had, (never would have thought that Betty's hair was red though!).

It is rather hard to come by, but this cartoon was released in color on super 8. I forget who released it though. You can view it over the internet or download the whole cartoon., It is well worth getting.

Posted by John Skujins (Member # 1515) on October 18, 2011, 10:24 PM:

I have the colorized "Ha Ha Ha." Live action scenes are cut out, and original titles are gone. I wouldn't show it to guests for sure.

UBB.classic^TM 6.3.1.2