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Ross Brookes
Junior
Posts: 2
From: Ware, Hertfordshire, England
Registered: Feb 2011

posted February 11, 2011 01:02 PM

Hi. I have been reading this forum for a little while now as I have only recently become interested in shooting on film, but this is my first post.

I have recently sent three standard 8 reels off to be processed. They were all ASA colour 100 from the same supplier. However, one of the reels has come back how I can only describe as looking very red. When projecting it it is almost like black and white accept it is black and red, and no other colours are there, if that makes any sense. This is a real shame as the other 2 reels look great and full of colour.

I wondered if any of you more experienced guys could give me an insight into why this might have happened?

I have searched the forum and cannot see any similar posts but if I have missed this being discussed before please just redirect me! Thanks in advanced!

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Kirkamus Anderson
Film Handler

Posts: 99
From: hoenberg
Registered: Feb 2011

posted February 11, 2011 01:16 PM

Is there any chance of a light leak? Without seeing the footage or a screen shot it's kind of hard for me to diagnose. Maybe others have heard of this before.

Was the film new?

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006

posted February 11, 2011 01:18 PM

Hi Ross, and welcome.

First off, what kind of film? Kodachrome? Ektachrome?

How old were the films?

Possibilities include: a long outdated roll of film, or a roll that has been stored badly before/after shooting (high heat or such.)

It could also have gotten light-struck along the way (exposed to daylight.)

The lab could have made a mistake.
However, given the relatively small loads of Standard-8 that get processed these days, one can reasonably imagine that the three films went into the same 'bath.'

If you give a bit more background, we may be able to give you some more accurate advice. It's always frustrating to get something like that back, especially with two good rolls.

Claus.

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Kirkamus Anderson
Film Handler

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From: hoenberg
Registered: Feb 2011

posted February 11, 2011 01:23 PM

Yea I agree with Claus. Just to clarify. You had three rolls developed. Std 8 is shot 16mm then split into two 8mm reels.
Is only one split of those 8mm messed up? Or are both splits from the reel red?

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Bart Smith
Expert Film Handler

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From: Hackney, London
Registered: Feb 2007

posted February 11, 2011 03:04 PM

Was the 'red' film shot indoors under tungsten lighting?

The 100 ASA stock was probably Ektachrome 100D, which is daylight balanced. Stuff shot under tungsten/indoor lighting would normally come out looking very very red.

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 11, 2011 03:11 PM

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The 100 ASA stock was probably Ektachrome 100D, which is daylight balanced. Stuff shot under tungsten/indoor lighting would normally come out looking very very red.

Brat, Probably we could also say, shooting Ektacrome 100D with filter on will come very very red

@ Ross, please understand that majority of cameras come with internal filter no 85 (orange/ but some people may see it as red) to compensate tungsten film. Because we don't have any more tungsten film in the market so only Ektachrome 100D now avalable which is daylight. Therefore you have to disable the filter when shooting outdoor, otherwise if will be red.

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Ross Brookes
Junior
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From: Ware, Hertfordshire, England
Registered: Feb 2011

posted February 11, 2011 07:39 PM

Wow thanks for all your fast replies.

This is what all 3 reels were:

I bought them all at the same time from the same website and all of the tins had "Jan 12" stamped on them, which is the date I bought them, so I don't really know how old they are.

All three were stored in the same place before and after shooting.

Both splits from the reel are red.

It was shot outside in daylight. I have shot in the same conditions on one of the other reels and it came out fine. One of my other reels was shot indoors under tungsten lights which came out slightly Orange, but the reel I am talking about is definitely red.

Here is a screen shot from when I roughly performed my own telicine using a camera pointed at the projector screen.

Thanks guys, I appreciate your help!

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted February 14, 2011 02:33 AM

Hi,

the "CineChrome 100D" should contain "Kodak Ektachrome 100D". I haven't got a clue how you managed to get those red&black-pictures. Unless you've been filming through a red filter, I can only think of a problem at Kodak or in the lab. [Confused]

(Your result looks a little bit like the photos taken with the "Rollei RedBird" film.)
However I hope that you didn't bought this film in "Jan 12", as it's still "Feb 11" on my calendar [Big Grin]

Jörg

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