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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 18, 2011 09:01 AM

Hi all,

From the previous thread , Daniel Florence mentiones his ST 800 MO which is quite surprise for me, since never seen it before.

I knew GS800 MO but not ST 800. I also knew ST 600 MO and of course ST1200 and GS1200 both MO, but not ST 800.

I asked Daniel to post the picture but he faced a difficulty to upload it. So I upload his picture on his behalf.

Here we go:

So what do you think guys... have you seen this before?

ps: Daniel I sent yo a pm to show you how to upload picture.

cheers,

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Winbert

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 18, 2011 09:21 AM

It looks exactly like my ST-800M other than the labling and the M/O selector switch above the transport control selector.

Hey Daniel,

Could you shoot a picture showing the area around the sound heads? (thanks)

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Daniel Florence
Junior
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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Jan 2010

posted February 18, 2011 09:41 AM

The sound system looks like the ST1200's, with the same exciter lamp. I'll post a picture later (I need some time...).

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Pasquale DAlessio
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From: Bristol,RI, USA
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posted February 18, 2011 12:09 PM

quote:
So what do you think guys... have you seen this before?

No, but I'd sure like to see it on my desk!! [Smile]

What a beautiful unit. It makes me salivate! [Confused]

Pat DAlessio

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Adrian Winchester
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From: Croydon, London, UK
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posted February 18, 2011 02:55 PM

Fascinating - I've never seen one of these. Whilst I'm delighted that there are plenty of Elmos in circulation, from an economic point of view, I'm baffled that they considered it worthwhile making so many different models with slight variations. E.g. I don't suppose the cost of making this one was very different to the 600' equivalent, so did it really make sense to make both?

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted February 19, 2011 09:48 AM

As far as I know, this is about 90% equivalent to the ST-600. As a matter of fact without the large hubbed (Elmo or Gepe) 800 Foot takeup reel it will not rewind a full 800 foot reel of film but stall 600+ feet in. That end of the machine is probably pure ST-600.

I think Elmo saw it as an in-between for the ST-600 and the ST-1200. I operate mine side by side with my ST-1200HD equipped with an 800 foot takeup reel and (usually)the lamp set low and they are a pretty well matched pair.

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Daniel Florence
Junior
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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Jan 2010

posted February 19, 2011 11:33 AM

Here's a picture of the area around the sound heads
http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/showpic.cgi?dir=uploads0503&file=st800mo001.JPG

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted February 19, 2011 12:56 PM

Thanks for the photo Daniel!,

This end of the sound system is very close to being the same as the ST-800M (-other than the obvious...). It has the same film chute, which unfortunately I've been told is both unique to the ST-800 and is a wear point. The curved edge up at the entrance of the chute tends to wear an edge where it flattens the lower loop and if it goes far enough it can put lines into the viewable frame.

I also have half-baked theory that this wear allows the film to pulsate up and down on the (magnetic) heads a tiny bit and makes the 24 FPS chatter that much worse. My only evidence for this is the fact that replacing the chute cut this way, way back.

The chute now in my machine has very little wear on it, and I try to lube it regularly to keep it that way. This isn't a crisis though: my first chute took 30 years to reach the point of being unservicable. The new one should last me to about 2039 at that rate! (That's 77 years old for me!)

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