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Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on February 23, 2012, 05:21 PM:
 
Great News, well done Keith

Take a look at new venue

scroll down to 'next events'

[Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on February 23, 2012, 06:43 PM:
 
Absolutely tremendous news! [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

To Keith, John and everyone else involved, I just don't know where you find the energy, but thank goodness you do!

Just what our wonderful hobby needs...well done you guys [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on February 23, 2012, 08:17 PM:
 
Excellent news! If any overseas visitors are able to spend just over 3 weeks in England, I'd recommend arriving just before the BFCC and including Blackpool in the same visit!
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on February 23, 2012, 08:40 PM:
 
What wonderful news! I am sure Keith and John have worked very hard to find a new venue, so congrats to them both.
Now we need to ensure a great turn out in October. Spread the word. I will try to be there, even though I have already booked a trip to the UK in May. Have to see if I can work that out.
But its going to be great to know that the BFCC is up and running again!
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on February 24, 2012, 01:01 PM:
 
Excellent news.
Looks like a nice venue.
[Smile]
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on February 24, 2012, 01:03 PM:
 
This is all down to Keith chaps as I'm miles away now in darkest Cornwall. All I've done is tried to encourage him and pass on messages from the forums from those who still want the hobby to continue.

Now frankly everyone, if you can get to Ealing on 27th October then you really do have to make the effort. I'm not saying you should come over from the other side of the world or anything like that but there are plenty of film collecting enthusiasts in England who aren't that far away whom we rarely or never see.

Don't forget Susanne and I now do a round trip of 500 miles with the heaviest Super 8 projector that ever existed just to help put on a show worthy of the admission price. The Ruislip convention cost us a lot in terms of time and loss of earnings. In total our losses there were about £600. Keith also invested his own money in putting that one on as he didn't feel he could charge enough on admission to cover the costs owing to all the moaning minnies in that regard he's had over the years. So USE IT OR LOSE IT is what I'm saying.

Phil Sheard has come to the rescue with 'Film Collecting' magazine and now Keith Wilton has opted to try to carry on the greatest film collecting convention in the history of film collecting conventions. Please all support him in this venture.

The day will conclude with ZULU because the 35mm projector packed up just as a reel of Zulu was threaded at Ruislip!
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on February 24, 2012, 01:12 PM:
 
I think John has said it all. But there are a lot of collectors who don't use these forums, so word somehow needs to get to them.
This may be the last BFCC if Keith does not see a big turn out.
How far is the new venue from the Ealing Town Hall? Map anyone?
 
Posted by Steven Sigel (Member # 21) on February 24, 2012, 02:18 PM:
 
I'm going to do my best to be there again! Any excuse to go to London is a good one!
 
Posted by Mark Williams (Member # 794) on February 24, 2012, 02:24 PM:
 
Great news indeed!
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on February 25, 2012, 03:48 AM:
 
Keith walked it from the tube station the other day Paul and it is a brisk ten minute walk. We'll stick a map up on the web site soon. Correct that, I've just done it. Link to the map is in the blurb on the home page.
 
Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on February 25, 2012, 01:58 PM:
 
...great news-and,in all fairness,I preferred Ealing to Ruislip...
 
Posted by Darren Payne (Member # 1517) on February 25, 2012, 04:41 PM:
 
Well done Keith et al :-)
 
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on February 26, 2012, 01:54 PM:
 
And while we're on this subject, re: conventions like Blackpool...and I don't know David Guest from Adam (the one who runs the new Blackpool Convention I mean, not the legendary David Guest who presents on regional BBC each night, whom I know reasonably well! [Smile] )...best wishes for a very successful 2nd year at Blackpool.

All these guys do an amazing job in keeping our wonderful hobby going!
 
Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on February 26, 2012, 03:00 PM:
 
what a fantastic news. See you all there
regards
Leon [Wink]
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on February 27, 2012, 11:33 AM:
 
John has posted the map on the BFCC home page (although the text still refers to Ruislip).
Looks like its a stone throw from Keith's house on Gordon Road, so that should make it quite a bit easier on Keith and John.
 
Posted by Colin Robert Hunt (Member # 433) on February 27, 2012, 02:57 PM:
 
Thanks to Keith for finding this venue and to John and Sue for there trek from the far shores of Cornwall. Look forward to meeting up with fellow forum members again. It's been a long wait.
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on February 28, 2012, 04:11 AM:
 
Paul, the text doesn't refer to Ruislip anywhere that I can see. If you are seeing this on the home page then it is just your browser using cached information. Microsoft is particularly prone to this since they removed the check mark option to update every page when visited. If the reference is somewhere else please email me so I can correct it. I run that web site simply as a service to collectors, it is not a business, so any help in keeping it up to date by pointing out errors is greatly appreciated.
 
Posted by Ken Finch (Member # 2768) on February 29, 2012, 11:08 AM:
 
Hope to be there as usual.
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on February 29, 2012, 11:24 AM:
 
Very strange! When I access BFCC.BIZ from the AOL browser I get the correct St Benedicts write up but the Ruislip map! [Eek!] . But when I access BFCC.BIZ through Internet Explorer I get the correct St Benedicts write up and the correct St. Benedicts map. Probably my computer, and I am sure it will all eventually correct itself.
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on February 29, 2012, 01:32 PM:
 
Hey, will Brain Murphy be there, yet again? Love that guys comedy!

Fingers crossed on my albums and website, (to be relaunched in May) taking off and "copping the lolly", so we could actually go to one of these, before they become extinct!
 
Posted by Colin Robert Hunt (Member # 433) on February 29, 2012, 03:20 PM:
 
Would love to meet you Osi. Have been to all of these conventions from the very start. And have really emjoyed the trip. I really do appretiate all the organizers of these events over the time and how how much effort is put into these conventions. So nice to meet fellow collectors around the UK and others from overseas, including Paul Adsett who has been a regular attender. Try to get over Osi it's well worth the trip.
 
Posted by Desmond Godwin (Member # 2530) on October 24, 2012, 05:14 PM:
 
It looks a great Venue. Wish i could be there. [Frown] Would be magic to spend most of the day in the set-up cinema just watching the film programs. [Smile] I hope someone will make a video of it and post it online so that folk (like myself) who cannot be there may at least get a 'look in' on it.

Desmond.
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 26, 2012, 01:18 PM:
 
Here is a plea for someone here to post lots of BFCC photos, similar to the excellent pics that Claus posted for Cinesea.
 
Posted by Ricky Daniels (Member # 95) on October 27, 2012, 05:43 AM:
 
...wish I could be there but work commitments say otherwise!

Hope it's a complete success for Keith and many thanks to him and his team for their continued support of the film collecting community, have a great day at the new venue.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 27, 2012, 01:10 PM:
 
I thoroughly enjoyed the day. The new venue is fantastic, much roomier than Ruislip. The Bring and Buy area was particularly given a lot more space than in previous years.
I didn't catch all of the film show but what I saw was up to the usual high standard of presentation and content. I have a question for those who may know - who released the "Hollywood Picnic" print we saw in the first hour?

It was great to meet up with and chat with all the usual suspects - Kev, John Clancy, John Salim, Mal, Colin, Mark Mander, Mark Williams, etc...

There were many bargains to be had, including a nice looking GS1200 Xenon at 'round about £500. Plenty of dealers tables. Maybe it was just me but the dealers all seemed much happier in the new place. Maybe it's the extra space.

Well done, Keith and John.
[Smile]
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on October 27, 2012, 04:36 PM:
 
So where are those "Photos" [Roll Eyes] ...chaps [Smile]
 
Posted by David Guest (Member # 2791) on October 27, 2012, 05:12 PM:
 
what wonderfull comments re this convention well pleased it was a great successs .these conventions are very important to the cine world .i would like to thanks the organizers dealers and public for attending because without you these conventions would end well done to all
 
Posted by Colin Auty (Member # 231) on October 28, 2012, 07:39 AM:
 
Michael -for your info the "Hollywood Picnic" film has just been released by Phil at Classic Home Cinema.

Colin
 
Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on October 28, 2012, 10:17 AM:
 
I certainly enjoyed it and thank John and Keith for all their efforts. The venue not surprisingly wasn't as picturesque as Ruislip but it certainly had all the facilities needed in a compact area, and I'm sure some would have appreciated the lack of steps that were a feature of Ealing Town Hall. The catering seemed impressively fast and hopefully the school gained some worthwhile funds from this. I hope the dealers did well as I had some films for low prices on the Bring and Buy that I would usually have expected to sell, but most didn't go on this occasion.

Most importantly, I hope the attendance was big enough to avoid a loss and make a BFCC next year viable, so we will be in suspense until John comments on this.
 
Posted by Mark Norton (Member # 165) on October 28, 2012, 12:38 PM:
 
A very big thank you to Keith, John & co. for a great day!

Easy parking at the new venue, and, as I found on an urgent dash to the cashpoint, convenient to be only a short walk away from Ealing Broadway.

I found the film shows one of the best I have seen in recent memory, the cinema had easy access and patrons could come and go mid reel with no disturbance to the show thanks to the exits at the rear.
The picture quality of the super 8 shows on the Elmo GS1200 HTI from that long throw were rich in colour, bright, sharp and truly impressive.

The convenient on site catering which included Hot Dogs! Just like I used to have at the cinema years ago, only much nicer, was thoughtful and much appreciated.

A much improved bring and buy area with lots to offer, many dealers with some "reel" genuine bargains and new releases were to be seen on the big screen!

A far better day than I could have hoped for.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 28, 2012, 01:40 PM:
 
Colin,
Thanks. That's good to know.

-Mike
 
Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on October 28, 2012, 06:08 PM:
 
Hollywood Picnic was also a re-release by Classic so there are some copies to be had second hand if youre lucky. But Phil has brand new copies now.

Graham S
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on October 29, 2012, 03:50 AM:
 
I managed to forget my camera so unless people email me through photos then I'm afraid there won't be anything on the past events pages. But at least I remembered the HTI projector and that was a close run thing as we nearly left without it. I've just had too much else going on to be able to concentrate on what was required for the convention which is a real shame but just the way life is nowadays.

As to whether the show was successful enough to encourage Keith to carry on still remains to be seen. At the moment all I can say is apart from one or two gripes (why do people keep feeling they need to moan at Keith after all the effort he puts in?) we were very happy with the way things went and the venue. It would have been nice if more people came along but we must be thankful to those who did, so thanks chaps and chappettes.

By the way, I had the 'Scope lenses set to 100ft so that tells you how far we were from the projection balcony to the 24ft screen. To get the results we did from Super 8, particularly in 'Scope, from that distance is incredible. A 6mm picture frame to a 24ft wide projected image of that quality from 100ft away is a major achievement.
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 29, 2012, 11:04 AM:
 
Pics.......... anyone?
 
Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on October 29, 2012, 01:47 PM:
 
Hope you lads had a great day and spent a fortune on your films,
I can't see why anyone would moan at poor ol' Keith, he's only
a very enthusiastic amateur like the rest of us and does the
hobby proud.It takes a bit of organising and finding venues, but
the guy pulls it off.Well done Keith and John for putting it on for
the collectors, and giving your time and effort.
 
Posted by Colin Robert Hunt (Member # 433) on October 29, 2012, 04:06 PM:
 
Had a great day at the convention. Me & the wife had some doubts if we where going due to major events. Glad we did and the school was a very nice place and ideal for the convention. Nice to meet up with fellow collectors Michael, Mel and many folks we tend to talk to. Special Thanks to Keith Wilton for all the effort I know goes into these events. Also many thanks to John & Sue for bringing the HTI GS all the way from Cornwall & back, and for all the work, the early and late times they put in to help with the convention. Thanks to all the other team of helpers that most dont meet to put on this day. Moaning to Keith is such bad manners, and to these people I say why moan can you not appreciate the effort that goes in to making these conventions you attend. Keith deserves al the praise we can give including all the above mentioned that make these conventions reality.
 
Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on October 29, 2012, 04:12 PM:
 
Well i enjoyed my time there also,The film shows i saw were great and still impressive on that large screen. The location was ideal and i Picked up a few bargains and met a few fellow collectors.Thanks to all involved for putting this event on and look forward to the next one,Mark.
 
Posted by Mark Williams (Member # 794) on October 29, 2012, 04:12 PM:
 
Many thanks to Keith Wilton,John Clancy & co for another outstanding convention!!

The venue was great and very easily to get to from Ealing Broadway tube station which was a big plus for me.

I especially enjoyed the film shows and the highlight for me was the screening of the 2 vintage Derann digests originally edited by Keith Wilton The Mummys Shroud & Kingdom of the Spiders along with a good selection of Hammer film trailers.

The bring and buy was very busy with the biggest selection of super 8mm package movies I have seen at the BFCC for years!

Lets keeps our fingers crossed that the BFCC will continue on to 2013 too.

Cheers Mw

John Clancy-I have just emailed you a selection of photo's as promised
 
Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on October 29, 2012, 06:40 PM:
 
What on earth was there to complain about ??

We had a good and varied programme of films on S8, 16 and 35mm which is no mean feat in itself and I thought the sound was better then the Town Hall, although that could be down to my new hearing aid [Smile]

[ October 30, 2012, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: Mal Brake ]
 
Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on October 29, 2012, 08:38 PM:
 
Considering the enormous amount of work that organising such a convention must take, moaning at Keith displays extreme insensitivity. If those responsible have anything constructive to offer, I suggest they volunteer to organise a convention next year!
 
Posted by Kevin Hassall (Member # 2352) on October 30, 2012, 04:30 AM:
 
people dont realise without keith ,john there wouldnt be these conventions so we should be gratefull they could easely throw the towel in
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on October 30, 2012, 04:51 AM:
 
Well some people could always do better even though they've never done anything themselves. I gather the main gripe was the catering was not good enough. Personally I'm thankful they agreed to come along and put some food on sale for us without which many would have starved!

In the main the comments Keith has received and heard about have been overwhelmingly positive.

Mark, I've put a couple of your snaps up and a few from Graham as well. Perhaps post those I haven't put on the bfcc.biz past events page up on this forum. And if anyone else has pictures of anything please email them through to me as we don't have much of a record of this event so far. Although some video may of course appear as Paul Garrick was filming with his pro equipment as were the University students who are making a documentary based on the day.
 
Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on October 30, 2012, 06:58 AM:
 
I'd say that moaning about the catering is needless nit-picking. I was happy to be presented with a large hot dog and a cup of tea in seconds, and there were bacon rolls, cakes, etc on offer. It's unrealistic to expect a school to offer a range of meals on a Saturday and anyone wanting more could have popped out to the Ealing shopping area.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 30, 2012, 07:59 AM:
 
John,

The new photos are not showing up on the site. Should they be viewable now in "Past Events"?
 
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on October 30, 2012, 08:08 AM:
 
Michael,

The pictures are up in Past Events, you might need to hit the reload option on your browser.

John, Congratulations to you and all on another great BFCC!

Doug
 
Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on October 30, 2012, 10:31 AM:
 
I bet if there was no food put on then that would have been wrong too!! I didn't eat there but saw a few people that did.Having food put on was a bonus along with a great event,Mark.
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 30, 2012, 10:48 AM:
 
Looks like it was a great event. That Classic Home Cinema display table looks fabulous. But where are some pics of Keith and John and the projection area? Was John Bird in attendance this year(such a nice chap)?
 
Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on October 30, 2012, 12:31 PM:
 
Well done, guys!
 
Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on October 30, 2012, 01:46 PM:
 
Paul,
John Bird was there. He was interviewed by students making a video recording of the event, recalling how he and Keith met and his continuing involvement with the BFCC.
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 30, 2012, 01:58 PM:
 
Thanks Mal, great to know that John Bird is still circulating at the BFCC, the convention is all the better for his jovial presence. Wonder if he still does his 'Reels on Wheels' road shows.
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on October 30, 2012, 04:55 PM:
 
John

I saw "Zulu" when it was released on the cinema run long long ago during its summer run at the local cinema in Scotland. I must have been 12 or 13 at the time, and its still stuck in my mind.

So how did the last reel of "Zulu" go? anyone got a spare 35mm print? [Big Grin]

Graham.
 
Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on October 30, 2012, 06:14 PM:
 
There were no gremlins in the works this time.
ZULU looked and sounded very good on that 24ft screen.
As an aside, both Ivor Emmanuel (the corporal) and Richard Burton (the narrator) came from the same small village about 2 miles from here.
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on October 31, 2012, 06:24 AM:
 
Yes, John Bird does still do his 'Reels on Wheels' but nowadays it's video projection I'm afraid. Still, he's 89 years young now but with his youthful assistant (Billy who is 81) you'd think they'd put the extra effort in to do a proper film show!

Thank you everyone. And thank you Mark Williams, Fabrizio Mosca, Graham Sinden and Ben Wales for sending us the pictures through so we can keep a record of the day on the site. If anyone else still has something then please email it through to me.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 31, 2012, 01:43 PM:
 
I still can't get these new pictures on my home PC - I've tried reloading the page which just switches me back to the BFCC homepage.
Not sure why I can't get these???
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 31, 2012, 01:54 PM:
 
Michael, I had the same problem. I got the page to update by googling "British Film Collectors Convention" and clisking on the BFCC web page on the google list.

John, any chance we'll get to see the film that the University students were shooting at the BFCC?
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 31, 2012, 02:01 PM:
 
Hi Paul,

Yes, I also tried this but still just the same. Weird!!
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 31, 2012, 02:24 PM:
 
Try this:
http://www.bfcc.biz/
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 31, 2012, 02:29 PM:
 
Still no good. So strange. I'm not having any problems at all with any other pages.
 
Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on October 31, 2012, 03:33 PM:
 
Michael, you're absolutely right, it does the same with me.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 31, 2012, 03:56 PM:
 
Ah, at least it's not just me. Let me know if you figure it out, Hugh.
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on November 02, 2012, 04:37 AM:
 
Try http://www.bfcc.biz/61stbfccpage1.html

And let me know which browser you are using because I spotted some trouble with Mozilla Firefox recently.
 
Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on November 02, 2012, 09:25 AM:
 
Hmm, I'm using Mozilla Firefox and everything's OK
 
Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on November 02, 2012, 10:00 AM:
 
It seems that John has sorted the problem Michael.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 02, 2012, 01:57 PM:
 
Yeah, that link works fine, John. Thanks. However, I still can't load it on the regular BFCC site. I'm using Chrome.
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on November 03, 2012, 06:17 AM:
 
Try using another browser Mike because it could be that the way the BFCC site was set up all those years ago is not compatible with the later ones. And there ain't nothing I can do about that short of re-writing the whole thing.

I did have some problems recently myself as I said but that mysteriously sorted itself with no intervention from me. I've always written the HTML in Notepad and checked it all with Internet Explorer so if you take a look at the source code you'll see it's all very compact and simple. Most sites are now written using web creation tools so the coding is just a complete mess. Perhaps Chrome only works with web pages created using certain tools. The Independent 8 pages are somewhat more complicated so I knock most of the code for those up in Microsoft Word.
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 03, 2012, 09:30 AM:
 
Sometimes your browser cache can cause you problems in viewing some sites. This often happens if one of the cache files gets corrupted.

Give this a try it might work. The last time I cleared it there was over 300mb in it. Checked just now and its 65mb. I mainly use Firefox.

For Firefox.

Clear the cache

At the top of the Firefox window, click on the Firefox button (Tools menu in Windows XP) and then click Options
Select the Advanced panel.
Click on the Network tab.
In the Cached Web Content section, click Clear Now.
Click OK to close the Options window.

Internet Explorer.

Click the Tools button , and then click Internet options.

Click the General tab, and then, under Browsing history, click Delete.

In the Delete Browsing History dialog box, select Temporary Internet files, click Delete, and then click OK.

Google Chrome

Delete all your data

Click the Chrome menu Chrome menu on the browser toolbar.
Select Tools.
Select Clear browsing data.
In the dialog that appears, select the checkboxes for the types of information that you want to remove.
Use the menu at the top to select the amount of data that you want to delete. Select beginning of time to delete everything.
Click Clear browsing data.

Try to avoid clearing browser history this will clear your links in the address bar.

You can set to auto clear on exit too. Now most users have a fairly fast connection, you probably don't need a cache anyway?
 
Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on November 04, 2012, 06:49 PM:
 
[BELATED!] Thanks to Keith, John & all the dealers & people that contributed to a great day of fun; had kinda missed Ealing & the new venue's a lot better than Ruislip I must say,as closer to tube stn & I had this 'community' feeling stronger than there-all was in one place, great!
Enjoyed the film shows & had some little bargains, was also good to see the people that were there, amongst which many friends from Italy, France & Portugal! Unfortunately was the only Greek there--first time ever as memory goes!--it's obvious Greece is in deep recession isn't it? [Frown]
.....great to hear next BFCC's sorted already-although too close to Blackpool....would it, I wonder, not be a feasible solution to move it to the spring, so that we don't have two major events one month after each other??.....
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on November 05, 2012, 02:42 AM:
 
Yes, it would be good to move it to Spring but I wouldn't be able to help Keith put it on. So that's that I'm afraid.

Be aware everyone Keith is currently just considering a date for next year and so I've slapped something up on the next event page. There is nothing definite yet. This recent event only did a little more than cover its costs so if there is one last try then we'll need as many people as possible to make the effort to get along. Once this convention is gone we'll all miss it as we'll have very little chance to get together without a gathering in London. For us it's easier to get to Cinesea than it is Blackpool. A bit more expensive but an easier trip!
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on November 05, 2012, 09:28 AM:
 
John, I really believe that the entrance fee should be raised to the point where the BFCC can more than cover costs. Surely, no cine enthusiast is going to object to a 10 or 15 pound entrance fee for a wonderful day in Ealing.
Do whatever it takes to keep this great convention going.
 
Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on November 05, 2012, 07:45 PM:
 
Definitely worth the trouble John, was actually referring to Blackpool being moved in the spring, not Ealing; Keith told me it's not feasible to hold it in May,as the school's not available then, while it is for the October half term.So my point was that if Blackpool was moved to,say, March or May that might be better than having the two big conventions in 3 weeks from each other!
....Obviously just a thought-don't know how feasible that'd be...
 
Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on November 05, 2012, 09:20 PM:
 
It's hard to imagine Blackpool earlier in the year in the sense that it has a very long history and I think every one (and certainly every one since 1984, when I started going) has been in November, although there were some smaller Blackpool events in March.

[ November 06, 2012, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Adrian Winchester ]
 
Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on November 07, 2012, 09:35 AM:
 
....might be worth checking this in 2 weeks-the feasibility of the idea-when we're there...
 
Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on November 07, 2012, 12:50 PM:
 
Yanis,
this quote from Mr Guest seems pretty final:

re blackpool i have no intention of moving from the month of november as its always been in november plus i am far to busy to have it any other month .i dont think that there are lot of public who come from ealing to blackpool .derann started one up in birmingham many years ago to attract dealers and public from ealing but this was short lived so all in all i thinks its best to keep going with a month that suits everyone .lookforward to seeing you on the day
 
Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on November 08, 2012, 11:04 AM:
 
Bill Davison started the Northern Film Collectors Convention in 1977 if I remember correctly. This was as a result of the first British Film Collectors Convention in 1976 but even the BFCC was somewhat different in those days - the shows look to have been absolutely fabulous and across a variety of gauges but there wasn't a separate dealer area. Blackpool was very much a projector on stand and a tripod screen with films being threaded up as dealers supplied them for screening.

You can see a lot from back in the day on the first Men Behind The Movies DVD which can be purchased from the Filmtek pages of www.bfcc.biz. Great nostalgia and choc-full of information and history on our hobby.
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 08, 2012, 01:16 PM:
 
I feel fairly sure that Les Siddall I think was his name, who owned Regent Films of Blackpool was the gentleman who started the Blackpool Film Convention.

I remember him on the ticket desk too, this was when Derann took over the running of it.

In case you never heard of Regent Films they were mainly importers of 'American prints' from the likes of Columbia. The quality of some of the same films that were released in the UK were sometimes not up to the same standard. They were also a main importer of Blackhawk releases & Thunderbird Films. I don't recall them ever releasing their own titles.

Bill Davison could have helped in the setting up, & was the man on stage, the roll taken over by the late Derek Simmons.

Bill was the reviewer in Movie Maker magazine.

One of my projects over the winter is to scan the various catalogues I still have and put them up on my website in pdf format. Also some of my Movie Maker, Film Making, Films & Filming.

If anyone has old catalogues that they could either scan or send me I would be very grateful.

If you have any please PM me.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 08, 2012, 01:26 PM:
 
David,
Do you have a link to your website where we can view these scans?
I'd love to see them.
 
Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on November 08, 2012, 03:18 PM:
 
Re John and David's posts about early Blackpool conventions.
A friend and myself were regulars from '77 to '82.It was Les Siddall who organised the event but Bill Davison was the 'star' attraction so to speak.
Bill used Eumig projectors and Harry Garlick's Craven 20w amplifier and speakers for the shows. Super 8 showed its class when Tony Shapps presented the 400ft version of 'Born Free' in scope using the Elmo ST1200 in combination with the 16ft sidewinder scope screen.
 
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 08, 2012, 04:57 PM:
 
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Michael O'Regan Do you have a link to your website where we can view these scans?
I'd love to see them.

Thought I put the link on, but my memory says I forgot. So here it is The Reel Image Although the site is called The Reel Image it has NO connection the Steve Osborne's magazine.

The site is currently under a makeover. I haven't updated for quite a while, but now I'm semi-retired I've set myself a few projects. Updating the site is one of them.

I'll put a temporary location for the scans already done at the weekend.

Always want old catalogues, film magazines, or just scans. Please send PM.
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 08, 2012, 05:04 PM:
 
Ah, that's a site I've been to in the past. Didn't realise it was yours, David. Thanks for the link.
 
Posted by David Guest (Member # 2791) on November 14, 2012, 04:33 PM:
 
considering this is a well talked film convention and i am led to belived very well supported how come there are no photos surely somone must have took some or is it not allowed at this convention .there will be photos galore of blackpool which will be held on the 18th nov at 10am lookforward to seeing you all on the day
 
Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 14, 2012, 04:37 PM:
 
There are photos on the BFCC website.
www.bfcc.biz
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on November 14, 2012, 07:49 PM:
 
Please, someone, post lots of pics of the forthcoming Blackpool convention on this forum. The BFCC pics are all documented and archived on the BFCC web site, but Blackpool photos rarely appear on this forum.
 
Posted by Antonio Costa Mota (Member # 221) on November 15, 2012, 06:53 AM:
 
I strongly support Paul´s suggestion. I would also love to see
a well done photo document of Blackpool´s event. I am sure a lot of collectors who won´t make it to the meeting, share the same desire.
 


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