8mm Forum: Does Germany have the entire supply of Super8 films?

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Posted by Pete Richards (Member # 2203) on February 06, 2013, 09:23 PM:

I was just browsing ebay in Germany
http://www.ebay.de/sch/Zelluloid-/63821/i.html?_sop=16&_from=R40&_nkw=super+8+film&rt=nc

Germany seems to have ten times the amount of Super8 features and digests for sale than any other country's ebay.

Is there any reason or do Germans just love their film?

Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on February 07, 2013, 02:01 AM:

Hi Pete,

yes, at the moment are a lot of full features for sale in Ebay Germany, but I think this is just at the moment. During the last months were nearly no interesting features for sale there.

Many of the digest-sales are in there for weeks or months, because some prices are too high for the items (my opinion).

The Super 8-activity in Germany is not higher than in other countries, f.e. Italy, UK or USA.

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on February 07, 2013, 05:06 AM:

I find that I have much more luck finding good titles when browsing either the Italian or German eBay, rather than the US or UK. But I agree with Michael, the prices in Italy and Germany seems to be much higher, especially on single reels and such.

Posted by Pete Richards (Member # 2203) on February 08, 2013, 06:26 AM:

What is frustrating is being in Australia, very few prints ever come up, and sellers in Germany often won't sell to here.
Makes it difficult and expensive!

Posted by Michael Beyer (Member # 1143) on February 08, 2013, 06:42 AM:

Pete,
I think the shipping costs from Germany to Australia are too high. And I don't know, what toll-documents a seller needs to ship to Australia. This can be a barrier, too.
So it is easier to ship only in Europe or only in Germany.

Posted by Alex Goedert (Member # 3440) on February 08, 2013, 08:24 AM:

Yep, i know the problem about sellers not willing to sell or ship abroad: as i'm living in Luxembourg, it only takes you 40 kilometers either direction to find yourself in a foreign country!
That's why i registered several "fake adresses" which are actually packing stations in the respective countries where i have them send my parcels. From there, they are forwarded to my home adress. The only hassle remaining is customs concerning US parcels...

Alex

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on February 08, 2013, 09:10 AM:

I bought many from Belgium (highest quality), no trouble at all - Hope to continue some overseas purchases - Shorty

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on February 08, 2013, 09:26 AM:

What I do about it is have a "Tante" and "Onkle" who live near Heidelberg, but I guess that's not an option for everybody!

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on February 08, 2013, 10:10 AM:

quote:
What is frustrating is being in Australia, very few prints ever come up, and sellers in Germany often won't sell to here.

Ebay that makes everything difficult.

If a seller agrees to send to Australia (say the shipping cost would be $40), when you receive the item and say the film is not like as describe (for whatever is the reason), you send the item back to the seller (mandatory).

Once the seller receive the film back, he has to refund full amount that include shipping cost to you (mandatory).

So the seller does not get anything here, but instead loss money ($40) because of shipping. You see how pain is that selling overseas.

Posted by Pete Richards (Member # 2203) on February 08, 2013, 03:28 PM:

Does anyone really decide to return a film?

There is a Star Wars Super8 print on ebay now, but no way for me to bid on it. I do wish they would just list them here for sale [Smile]

Though I always seem to slow anyway.

Posted by Jonathan Trevithick (Member # 3066) on February 08, 2013, 04:03 PM:

I find that many sellers are happy to mail to Australia if you send them a message.
From my direction, i'm happy to mail anywhere (even Italy - where the post seems to grind to a snail's pace when it lands on their shores).

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on February 08, 2013, 09:57 PM:

quote:
Does anyone really decide to return a film?

Pete, if that is the only film you have, most probably not.

But if the buyer is buying because trying to replace his current print, then 80% buyer wishes to return if finding it is the same fade with his current.

A stupid buyer just returned my film for the sake of fading which I described clearly as "the film is fading".

Ebay agents did not understand this term and kept insisting me to give a full refund. Since paypal is also an Ebay subsidiary, Ebay held my fund.

I don't know what is this seen from fair trading, but Ebay has always succeded to do this.

So beware with a buyer who is buying because of the reason of finding a better print.

ps: and you know what... Ebay even will not refund the final value fee and the final value fee on shipping which seller has shared with Ebay, although the seller gives a full refund.

Saying you sold a $1000 item and send via the most secure shipping available which cost you $100 and you are an honest seller which did not mark up anything on shipping. Ebay took 9% out of $1000 (say $90) + 10% out of $100 (say $10).

Then when a buyer return the item, you will loose $100 for the shiping plus another $100 for those fees.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on February 09, 2013, 06:08 AM:

I agree Winbert that the way some buyers treat the seller is
atrocious, those examples in a different thread with yourself
and Osi highlight this. So far I have been fortunate in having
dealt with reputable people on ebay.Although there is also the
other side of the coin where an advertiser sells a print and makes
no mention that it is a poor copy.It pays to make the relevant enquiries before the sale ends, but in your latest case of having to
pay all costs through someone "trying it on" is not acceptable.

Posted by Oscar Iniesta (Member # 1731) on February 09, 2013, 09:16 AM:

I have noticed that many german sellers doesn´t offer Paypal, just bank transfers. I hate bank transfers, and it usually tooks 2-3 days. But the problem is that I found many sellers who doesn´t want to sell abroad. I found it stupid in Europe. We don´t have customs, and shipping is paid by buyers. What do you prefer, a national market or a european one? I prefer a worldwide market for my auctions. But the european one is better as it becomes as easy as the national. Couriers works fine at 99.9%. I used to buy german articles and receive them at a cheap price and one to two weeks delivering time. From U.K. an envelope use to be at my door in just a few days. But many U.K. sellers doesn´t sell abroad too.
About our hobby articles, I have learned that there are nothing in the USA compared with Europe. Maybe the earlier launch of video in the states would be the reason?
The market I would like to have is the japanish one, but I don´t have any idea how to search there due to the language.

Posted by Pete Richards (Member # 2203) on February 11, 2013, 02:48 AM:

My brother lives in Japan, if there are any titles you want I can have him look for them.

To get you started, simply search for 8ミリ映画 in any japanese sites, it equates to 8mm Movie, which is what they tend to refer to Super8 films as.

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