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Posted by Ernie Zahn (Member # 274) on September 01, 2013, 01:13 PM:

I'm getting the Marketing Film of "To Catch a Thief" from a dealer here. It should arrive soon and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

I noticed many marketing films are cropped to an aspect ratio of 1.85 I believe.

I know that To Catch a Thief was shot in VistaVision and so the 1.85 won't be a cropping but rather a flat but relatively native presentation. How does it look?

Also, Vertigo and North by Northwest are available as Super 8 features, how do they look are they flat? And Rear Window was shot in Academy 1.37, I believe, how does that look?

Do any of these get squeezed for Scope with black bars on the sides? Or are they all flat?

Thanks!

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 01, 2013, 03:06 PM:

My copy is full frame. Possibly the sides are missing, but it's not obvious when watching.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on September 01, 2013, 05:32 PM:

I have the 3X400' which is beautiful colour, but full frame, although nicely done, you would'nt think it was a widescreen print, it is done so well.Marketing did well here.
as a post scipt Ernie, the quality is second to none on the 3x400
sleep easy my friend.

[ September 01, 2013, 06:42 PM: Message edited by: Hugh Thompson Scott ]

Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on November 11, 2013, 09:17 AM:

My full Marketing Feature is also full frame ... Looks quite nice

Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on November 11, 2013, 09:27 AM:

Take a loke for Vista Vision here:
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingvv1.htm

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 11, 2013, 10:14 AM:

VistaVision for cinemas was hopeless from the start, two specially adapted projectors were needed (picture heads on their sides) and very few projection rooms had sufficient space for more projectors, not even if the cost was met of the extra equipment.

"Motion Picture High Fidelity" as the slogan ran, but who in a cinema cared how the picture got on the screen, and the standard release prints looked just the same as any other.

Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on November 11, 2013, 10:51 AM:

You talk about Vista Vision 8 perforation horizontal projection. This is not important for the questien here.
Vista Vision prints (35mm) can be used for different aspect ratios.
I never checked a Super 8 print of Vista Vision title, but I can tell you 16mm prints are cropped at the right and left side.
A Original 35mm VV print is nearly full frame, you can mask it on top. On every reel is two times the Vista Vision "F" symbol, which marks the different aspect ratios.

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on June 15, 2015, 05:10 PM:

Thanks for that information Oemer. I noticed on my 16mm print it was cropped on the left side of the screen, which meant some actors names had the first letter missing.

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