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Topic: Eumig R 2000
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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1269
From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008
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posted October 11, 2013 11:22 AM
Steven,
I'm afraid that you haven't picked the best projector for doing transfers, for a number of reasons..
1. The screen material is rather grainy, and that will show in the result.
2. If you intend to to just film straight off the screen with the film running normally, you will get a pronounced flicker in the result. In order to avoid this you will need to slow the machine done to 16.667 fps... but the motor is not variable in speed to achieve this, (the various slower speeds are achieved via a gearbox, while the shutter speed does not change) so you would have to fit a different type of motor plus speed control.
3. If you intend to modify the projector for "frame by frame" transfer you will have even greater problems as you will not only need a contact driven by the mechanism to control the computer for each frame capture, which is VERY difficult to do reliably because of the unusual mechanism in this machine, but also a different motor and speed control. You COULD make use of the lower speeds generated by the gearbox, but the shutter blades would need to be removed, again EXTREMELY difficult without extensive stripping and rebuilding.
My early attempts at transfer were with this machine. There were so many problems with trying to use it that now it sits in my workshop as a source of spare parts for all sorts of projects not associated with movies!
If you value your sanity... take heed!
Martin
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Retired TV Service Engineer
Ongoing interest in Telecine....
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Robert Hudson
Junior
Posts: 16
From: Oceanside, CA, USA
Registered: Oct 2013
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posted November 16, 2014 07:51 PM
I thought I would post an update. I had not transferred 8mm movies to video for a while now because I got frustrated at not being able to eliminate - not just reduce - the flicker.
Two weeks ago a found a solution: an app for my iPhone. It's called simply "Telecine" and it is a video recording app designed to allow matching the frames rate of film projectors. It also has a couple of other features to help the transfer go better, but the frame rate option is the real godsend, not only for use with a Eumig or Bolex instaprojector, but with any film projector.
I had at first set it for 18fps, because that was the speed setting on my Bolex 102 MTC, but there was still some flicker. The I recalled that my unit was designed to run on 50 cycle 220 volt European current and I am using an adapter to convert 110 volt 60 cycle US current to 220. It turns out that because of the conversion, my projector is actually running at 16fps, so I started recording at a 960x540 pixel setting which allows be to select any frame rate 3 to 30 frames per second. Setting it at 16 fps took out the flicker. I later discovered that if I usee the Telecine app's 1280x720 pixel setting I can choose frame rates up to 120 fps. I chose 32 fps (16 times 2) and with the higher pixel count and twice as many frames, it gives me better quality.
Again, I am shooting video on an iPhone 5S pointed at the Instaprojector's built-in screen. The transfers I have been doing are for films I'm selling on ebay: I put the video on Youtube so buyers can see what's in each 8mm film. These are quick and dirty transfers and I don't do anything to try to make the black borders even or anything of that sort: I'm concerned mostly about color, brightness and flicker and I'll let you judge for yourself how that works.
Here's one I did today of some 1954 8mm Kodachrome (I use iMovie on the iPhone to add titles to the video and do any editing needed).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9VRCTRtt50
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