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Roger Faires
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 - posted February 26, 2014 09:02 PM      Profile for Roger Faires   Email Roger Faires   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK, here's a bonehead question from someone who's just getting back into Super 8 after 26 years. I just recently purchased an Agfa FS8 automatic splicer off of Ebay and I'm sitting here reading the instructions and other than joining two separate strips of film I do not see where I can just cut film. In other words lets say I just want to start separating takes off a 50' roll - How do I do that on the Agfa?

It's been a long time since I've actually cut film - Can't you tell?

Thanks
Roger [Confused]

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Graham Ritchie
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 - posted February 27, 2014 01:47 AM      Profile for Graham Ritchie   Email Graham Ritchie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yep...the Agfa F8S automatic is a good splicer [Smile] you are right regarding editing. Its been a very long time since I used mine, but I would guess you will need to use an editor to view, and do the initial cut with some scissors on the frame line. Then its just a case of joining your scenes in the order you want them using the splicer.

Graham.

PS. Just thinking back.. years ago folk would hang the strips of film in a certain order by using those wooden spring loaded washing line thingies [Smile]

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Mark Mander
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 - posted February 27, 2014 02:07 AM      Profile for Mark Mander     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Roger,
The Agfa splicer you mention is just for splicing two pieces of film together, As Graham mentioned you are probably best to use an editor as they can mark the film where you need to cut or run the film through the projector and it will give you an idea where to cut then rewind the film to the area and check, Mark

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Andrew Woodcock
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 - posted February 27, 2014 04:30 PM      Profile for Andrew Woodcock         Edit/Delete Post 
It will easily just cut one length of film by marking the frame, feeding it into the splicer from the left hand side, then align it with the centre point of the splicer. Next just close the lever.

Just make sure you have it clamped correctly and squarely in it's jig and ensure the actual frame you want to cut at is dead on the centreline of the splicer(easily seen on the splicer soleplate).

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Roger Faires
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 - posted February 27, 2014 06:50 PM      Profile for Roger Faires   Email Roger Faires   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Guys,

Thanks for all your input on this. Before I tried anything I might regret I'm glad to get your feedback. With that said, I was pretty sure that any true splicer should be able to cut film as well so I'm happy Andrew from good 'ol Madchester weighed in on my dilemma.

I will use some funky old film leader first to test and then (if all goes well) away I go!

Cheers All!!

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Andrew Woodcock
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Let us know how you get on Roger. Though i am sure you will find it a breeze to use.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Let us know how you get on Roger. Though i am sure you will find it a breeze to use.

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Jarmo Latva-Aijo
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 - posted March 02, 2014 02:05 PM      Profile for Jarmo Latva-Aijo   Email Jarmo Latva-Aijo   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here's the photo of mine

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Roger Faires
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Jarmo,

Nice photos.
Same Agfa as mine.
Yes, I can see from the one photo with the film laid out across that it can be a film cutter as well as splicer. Nice. Glad I got it. Believe it or not, right now I have no film to try this on. Have to wait for it to get back from lab.

thank you for responding.

All the best
Roger

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Jarmo Latva-Aijo
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 - posted March 03, 2014 02:12 AM      Profile for Jarmo Latva-Aijo   Email Jarmo Latva-Aijo   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,
I found Agfa F8 S Super 8 Film Splicer multi-language manual and scanned it.

It is here (600k, pdf). Agfa F8 S manual

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Roger Faires
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 - posted March 03, 2014 08:59 AM      Profile for Roger Faires   Email Roger Faires   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Jarmo,

Again, thanks.. Way above the call of duty!

And, I did try the cutting aspect of the splicer using a little bit of the leader on an old super 8 cartoon I had. Works Perfectly! Really does. You're Right.

And then I did a splice with it. It works so easy and fast that I wasn't even sure it was done at all until I held it up in the light. Shazaam! done perfectly.

Amazing splicer.

Roger

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Andrew Woodcock
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 - posted March 03, 2014 09:33 AM      Profile for Andrew Woodcock         Edit/Delete Post 
They are indeed Roger a fantastic tape splicer. Just be sure to use a pressure roller to ensure it is firmly stuck on both sides of the completed splice.

I found this particularly necessary to all my films which have been filmguarded as otherwise they may not stick as well as they should or otherwise would without the use of Filmguard.

That said, even with Filmguard used correctly to lubricate and protect my films and projector path, with the use of the pressure roller on the completed splice, I have never dropped a splice when projecting!

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