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Amandeep Singh
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From: Lancashire, UK
Registered: Dec 2014

posted December 01, 2014 01:19 PM

Hi

I'm new to this forum but I have recently been interested in 8mm film because I'm trying to get as close to recreating that feeling of going to the cinema without spending the big bucks that 35mm costs [Smile]

I have been looking at getting my first projector and searching on the internet to find a good one on a budget (around £100) and I have heard that you can get dual gauge ones that can take regular 8mm and super 8. What I would like to know is if you can get dual gauge ones that also do sound? I have heard that the Chinon 6100 can do this but I am not sure.

Also is there anywhere in the UK where you can get 8mm full movies and trailers? Also anyone know where you can get 8mm daysets like you see in the cinema?

Sorry for so many questions but I thank you all in advance for any help you could offer me.

Thanks

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Trevor Adams
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posted December 01, 2014 01:38 PM

Try an Eumig S810 D-should fulfill your needs [Wink]

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Dominique De Bast
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From: Brussels, Belgium
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posted December 01, 2014 01:41 PM

Welcome Amandeep. You can find sound dual gauges : several makes manufactured various models. You can buy second hand films from this forum, from EBay and from dealers (several are based in the UK, which is good for you). There are also conventions where you can buy films. If you want new copies, you may have a look at what CHC in Britain offers.

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Amandeep Singh
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posted December 01, 2014 04:52 PM

Trevor and Dominique, thank you for your sound advice. I will look for the Eumig 810D and I will also look on ebay and this forum for films.

Apart from the Eumig, are there any other good makes and models you can think of?

Also with regards to 8mm movies, can you get complete films or are they just cut down versions to fit the length of the reel? I would assume that a full movie would have to be on multiple reels, correct?

On another note do 35mm projectors really cost in the thousands? Are there no budget projectors or methods of viewing 35mm movies just for transfering onto the computer?

Thanks again [Smile]

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Gary Crawford
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From: Manassas, VA. USA
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posted December 02, 2014 07:43 AM

I agree...the Eumig 810D is good....try to find one of the HQS models, "high Quality Sound". They have less hum. The Lux model has a faster lens for brighter pictures. Also the Eumig 824D is a step up from the 810D..... Both of them are good IF they have been well taken care of. I've received many an 810D from people who have wiped out the claw by not following the directions when changing gates from Standard 8mm to Super 8. Oh..when buying used machines, be sure they do have both sets of sprockets and rear and front gates for each gauge. Over the years and over many owners, many of these machines end up with only one set. Just something to watch for.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted December 02, 2014 09:09 AM

Amandeep
None of the quoted projectors come within your budget 0f £100.

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Dominique De Bast
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From: Brussels, Belgium
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posted December 02, 2014 10:23 AM

Amandeep, you can find full version of many films but they come in several reels and are not cheap. if you want to screen them without interruption you will need to respool the film on a large spool which can only be used on very expensive projectors (like Beaulieu or Fumeo) or with a long play attachment unit.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted December 02, 2014 11:02 AM

If your idea to get a dual projector to save your money in case you need to project both format, just stick with super 8mm projector. Regular 8mm films do exist but super 8mm film are available more and various. Those complete/full films you want to have are majority on super 8mm format.

I would say that regular 8mm packed film was ceased in around 1975s while super 8mm films are still released to date. So you can think what films you will get on regular 8mm.

There are plenty super 8mm projectors, and within your budget I would suggest Elmo ST-800. If you are lucky sometime you can still get Elmo ST-1200 too which can take 1200 feet reel.

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Amandeep Singh
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From: Lancashire, UK
Registered: Dec 2014

posted December 03, 2014 04:09 AM

Thank you all for your very helpful advice, its much appreciated. Based on the responses it seems that perhaps going for a dual format projector isn't right for me and I think I will just stick with Super 8. So far I only have one reel and its Super 8. Its some daysets from ABC cinemas. The only other reel I have is a 35mm Odeon cinema dayset but looking at the cost of 35mm projectors I donlt think I will get a chance to project that anytime soon [Frown]

Thanks again, I will keep a lookout for the projectors you've mentioned.

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Erik Snel
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From: Leiden, South Holland, the Netherlands
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posted December 07, 2014 02:07 PM

be sure when you buy a 800 series eumig that it continues running when it gets warm. the projector doesn't have a drive belt but two rubberized discs. this rubber tends do lose its properties over the years and you will end up with a slow running or not at all running projector.

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