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Posted by Albert Jacobs (Member # 4350) on February 07, 2015, 11:25 AM:

I have tried what I think everything and nothing seems to work. I am talking about transfering my 8mm movie film to digital video. I have tried projecting onto a regular screen and using a digital camera, projecting onto a clean white surface and the camera. I have even tried the age old method of using the first surface mirror and a ground glass screen and video camera and nothing seems to work. Color washout, blurring images (even though I carefully focused). I think I have given up and bring it in for the professional. I heard of aerial transfer but can't find details. Shall I give up?

Posted by Bob Pucci (Member # 8) on February 07, 2015, 12:49 PM:

I have done it by projecting a very small image (around 5 x 7 or 7 x 9) on a projection screen.I mounted my digital camera on a tripod for it to be steady.Also you will need a variable speed projector to sync it with the camera.I've done a 400 foot reel this way and results weren't that bad.

Posted by John Yapp (Member # 2873) on February 07, 2015, 01:48 PM:

Bob, You don't need ground glass. Just get a camcorder with at least a 12-14 times zoom, and a 16mm projector lens that will fit in the lens barrel of the 8mm projector, then film straight off the gate. See results here form a eumig 810 fitted with a 16mm lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxjq_Jz36E

Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on February 07, 2015, 03:23 PM:

Great results, John!

Martin.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on February 07, 2015, 03:34 PM:

Beautiful John. Is it possible you could post a picture of your setup. I'd like to see how you fit the 16 millimeter lens into the projector and how your camcorder frecords off of that. Great job!

Posted by John Yapp (Member # 2873) on February 07, 2015, 03:42 PM:

I'll try to make a little video sometime this week Janice. I think you'll be surprised just how "Heath Robinson" my set up is!
Also, I should mention that I pretty much learned everything I have put into practise from Martin Jones, who, in my experience, is more than happy to share his wisdom with those requesting it.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on February 08, 2015, 08:49 AM:

If my memory is good the aerial image system works by having a fairly large plan-convex lens at a distance from the projector and you focus the combination so the image is sharp at the flat surface of the lens. You then point the video camera at this and focus it on the image.
I believe it was originally developed to put cartoon images into live action films as the cels placed on the lens would be in focus as well as the filmed image and would be self matting. Wikipedia is rather vague on the subject, I read about it in a special effects book many years ago.

Posted by James Wilson (Member # 4620) on February 09, 2015, 06:20 AM:

Hi John,

Great job, I`m with Janice on this one, I`d also like a video or pictures your set up, if it`s not too much trouble.
Regards, James.

Posted by Steve Burton (Member # 5041) on September 28, 2015, 10:58 PM:

John,

Would like to also see the photos of John's setup. The sample demo is very impressive.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on September 28, 2015, 11:42 PM:

Steve...John posted a video of his telecine setup in this thread:

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009763

...AND Welcome to the Forum!

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