8mm Forum: Eumig parts required

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Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 24, 2015, 02:27 PM:

Hi all,
I am looking for two pairs of the little plastic rear rollers on the 810D and 801. These are the ones where the film comes out the back to feed around the take up reel. As you know each roller is in two halves.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 25, 2015, 12:22 PM:

Any idea's chaps n girls? [Smile]

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 25, 2015, 01:58 PM:

You can buy them from Bolex in Switzerland. It's not cheap ;-)

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 25, 2015, 02:01 PM:

Thanks Dominique [Wink]

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on October 26, 2015, 03:10 AM:

Tom have you tried phoning John White, he has many Eumig parts.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on October 26, 2015, 06:17 AM:

Thanks, Dominique, that is a new one for me. Bolex:

http://www.bolex.ch/NEW/index.php

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 26, 2015, 07:23 AM:

Good point Barry, i will do that.
Thank you [Wink]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on October 26, 2015, 09:24 AM:

quote:
You can buy them from Bolex in Switzerland. It's not cheap

These must have cost about 10 cents a piece to make, how come they are expensive?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 26, 2015, 10:11 AM:

-supply and demand!

You have a sole source part that seems dedicated to escaping into the wild!

This may be the single most downright evil projector part in all creation! I've popped that little cover off and even with the machine laying on its side somehow they defy gravity and pop off the little rods they are mounted on.

Once they reach the floor they just seem to evaporate!

Making them dark brown was a stroke of genius for camouflage purposes too. I bet if they were red or white you'd have a fighting chance of recovering them.

Of course you really can't blame the poor new Eumig owner that asks the natural question "What's behind this little cover?"

-Pandora's Box!, that's what!

I've had pretty decent luck making copies of these nasty little things. McMaster Carr sells Delrin rod that is about the right size. I put it on a drill bit that is the same diameter the hole should be. I chuck this in my drill press and use small files to shape it, then a modeling saw to cut the finished part off.

It takes about three tries to produce a usable roller, and they are light brown!

Posted by Barry Fritz (Member # 1865) on October 26, 2015, 10:22 AM:

Could this be a project for Edwin van Eck?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 26, 2015, 11:17 AM:

Possibly:

It would be nice if someone made them as a single roller rather than paired halves. There is no reason one side of the film needs to go faster or slower than the other.

Besides, if you doubled the mass of the thing the extra inertia might make its unrestrained behavior a lot less...skittery!

-and I want it da-glo orange or green! [Wink]

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 26, 2015, 02:08 PM:

Have you got a pattern part Tom, I could make the part for you, I have a small table top model makers lathe, I have just looked on you tube, are they two different sizes ?.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 26, 2015, 02:54 PM:

Paul, I think they are both the same,

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 26, 2015, 03:06 PM:

What's happened to them tom, have they just worn out or got flats on them because they have stopped spinning in the film path.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 26, 2015, 03:18 PM:

No i have just purchased on my Brothers behalf a really good Eumig 810DLUX HQS, i noticed that there is only one half of the roller at the rear.
I took the machine apart for a thorough clean up and this appears to be the only thing wrong so i was hoping to get a few pairs as we do have 4 of these machines, an 822 sonomatic, this 810D, an 807 and a 710D and i believe they all use the same rollers on this rear end. (3 sets inside each cover) [Wink]

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 26, 2015, 03:45 PM:

Oh right, well if you have a spare set I can have a look at and get some dimensions from and then I will send them back to you. Do you want them split or one piece items, why there split is anyone's guess. Once I've had a look, you can decide then if you want them made from alloy or plastic, have you found out what they will cost from bolex ?.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 26, 2015, 03:58 PM:

I'm guessing they are split because it was easier to cast them this way: as a double cone they'd have to be done in a two piece mold that would leave a casting line down each side they'd then have to smooth or risk having a ridge scrape the film twice each rotation.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 26, 2015, 04:20 PM:

Paul that would be great, i can send a pair to you no problem,i'm guessing two halves would be the way to go as these projectors are known to be so kind to film and these items must be a part of the reason. [Wink]

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on October 26, 2015, 04:52 PM:

I'll pm you the address details Tom.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on October 26, 2015, 05:50 PM:

Paul Adsett, you have obviousely never been to Switzerland. Everything is expensive, there ;-)

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 26, 2015, 06:04 PM:

thanks Paul,and to everyone who has replied. [Wink]

Posted by Edwin van Eck (Member # 4690) on January 15, 2018, 07:43 AM:

Completed today the rollers for the Eumig mark 6 series.

https://shop.van-eck.net/PP-0159.html?_globalsearch=pp-0159

The rollers for the Eumig 824 are also ready: https://shop.van-eck.net/PP-0197.html?_globalsearch=824

Soon also rollers for the other projectors in the Eumig 7 and 8-series.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on January 15, 2018, 08:41 AM:

I just love how proactive Edwin is!!!
Sees the need, fills the need!!
Beautiful!

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on January 16, 2018, 05:55 PM:

Looking forward to it, Edwin! Let me know when 810 rollers are ready!

Posted by Edwin van Eck (Member # 4690) on May 25, 2018, 09:06 AM:

Hi, Yes, these are ready!

See: https://shop.van-eck.net/PP-0163.html?_globalsearch=pp-0163

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on May 25, 2018, 01:53 PM:

Well done, Edwin! I'll be visiting your shop in the near future for my replacement part needs!

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