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Topic: Elmo ST-1200D Scratching Film
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted January 28, 2017 05:41 AM
Generally speaking these will require a new second green guide,(to your knowledge, has it ever been replaced?), the large one that sits under the second sprocket, also, possibly, (only possibly),the head pressure pads may be worn. I recently had mine replaced. And another good tip given to me by other collectors and also a very well known Elmo expert, the guide to the 800ft take up spool that you push in and forward to take the 1200ft spool, leave this one in the forward/inward position permanently, if this one is worn it will also scratch films.
Other than that, as already mentioned, any green or plastic guide may need replacing or at least, all removed and a good deep cleanse. Remember, these machines are becoming very old and it isn't often all collectors actually do much other than routine cleaning.
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Steve Klare
Film Guy
Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted January 28, 2017 01:39 PM
I’ve been there myself.
A couple of months ago I was making the rounds through my own guides when I found a wear spot in the lower guide. I hadn’t gotten to the point of scratching films yet, so I benched the machine and started looking for a replacement. I looked at the one in my spare parts donor and it was even worse, and I asked around the usual places but nobody had anything for me. (I was getting ready to send women and children to the lifeboats!)
-fortunately Forum Good Guy Kevin Clark stepped forward and offered me a new old stock guide at a fair price. I put it in the machine, but I took the chance to shoot a couple of photos for comparison first.
As Tom says, the wear comes right at the entrance to the lower sprocket.
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Here’s a side by side comparison of my new and old parts. The light is oriented to highlight the wear spot over on the left side of the worn guide, about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom of the picture. Film flow in this picture would be in the upwards direction going forwards.
This guide is for ST-1200HD. The one for the “D” model is different. I hope that means good ones are easier to find. In the best case something like an ST-180, 600 or 800 uses the same guide and even a used one wouldn't be worn out.
I think that the ST-1200s large reel capacity is its downfall here. It’s easier to run much more film through these than the lower capacity Elmos with similar guides: it makes wearing them out a lot easier.
It's kind of a liability of this hobby we rely on 40 year old machines on a daily basis like we do. Most any other technology we used in the 1970s is either displayed on a shelf or 20 years in a landfill by now.
The good news is the reason I shot those photos is to send them to Edwin van Eck. The best answer long term is brand new replacement guides on demand, and he's working on that.
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