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Pierre Beuzat
Film Handler

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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Nov 2015

posted January 17, 2018 02:10 AM

Hi everyone [Smile]

As some of you know, I'm a 23 year-old student who started the "Super8ThisPlanet" project, whose purpose is to capture as many capitals as possible on one Super 8 cartridge for each, in order to show how pure and emotional the Super 8 format is !

And I just finished the 5th episode of this serie, which is BERLIN : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBa9v5oPLR8&t=35s

I would love to have your opinion about this Super 8 film, so that I can technically improve the upcoming ones (Prague should be the next).

Feel free to share among our community or suscribe if you enjoy the project [Smile]

Thanks a lot to you all, and long life to film format !

Pierre

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Graham Ritchie
Film God

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From: New Zealand
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posted January 17, 2018 02:30 AM

Hi Pierre

Your Super 8 photgraphy looks great [Cool]

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Pierre Beuzat
Film Handler

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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Nov 2015

posted January 17, 2018 03:03 PM

Thanks a lot Graham, i appreciate [Smile]

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Pierre Beuzat
Film Handler

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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Nov 2015

posted January 22, 2018 01:46 PM

Any other feedback by any chance ? I would love to improve the next ones [Smile]

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Werner Ruotsalainen
Film Handler

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From: Helsinki, Finland
Registered: Dec 2017

posted January 22, 2018 03:42 PM

Excellent stuff! I've been contemplating the same: first, I'll shoot the 2018 events etc. here in Helsinki and, in the Summer, other parts of Finland with my newly-acquired (eBay) Canon 1014XL-S.

Any plans of coming to shoot Helsinki? (Not that it's worth coming here this time of the year - it's very cold and dark in here...)

BTW, is your community Facebook-only? I'd like to join, particularly if it's a non-FB one. (I prefer not using FB.)

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Graham Sinden
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Kent, UK
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posted January 22, 2018 03:53 PM

Hi Pierre,

What film stock did you use. It looks great anyhow.

My only advice would be to use a tripod to give that more professional look.

Graham S

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Clive Casey
Expert Film Handler

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From: Barrow-in-Furness, UK
Registered: Dec 2017

posted January 23, 2018 05:47 AM

Hi Pierre, I agree with Graham, I think if you use a tripod or some other means to steady your camera your films will look so much more professional. Do you remember The Blair Which Project? (You might not be old enough) but that film was in the cinemas more years ago than I care to remember. It was shot with a hand held camera. people in the cinema had to leave because of the excess movement on the screen. It was making them feel ill and wanting to vomit.
Please do not take my comments as a criticism, after working in commercial cinemas for a number of years, I know what I prefer to see, and that is a steady image on screen.
Good luck with your future filming,
Clive

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Pierre Beuzat
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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Nov 2015

posted January 27, 2018 02:52 PM

Thank you very much all of you for your answer [Smile]

Werner, even though Helsinki isn't my priority at the moment I definitely have in mind to film in one day (when it will be hotter you're right!). And this project isn't accessible on Facebook only, but on my YouTube channel "Pierre-Yves Bezat" and on Twitter too.

Graham and Clive I'll definitely keep in mind to avoid such shaking shots in the future... Which means preferring to miss some moments rather than absolutely willing to capture it in bad conditions [Smile]

I used a Kodak Vision 3 film stock with 500T (I never know whether I should prefer 200T or not, I'm easily scared by the eventuality of a bad weather..).

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Werner Ruotsalainen
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From: Helsinki, Finland
Registered: Dec 2017

posted January 27, 2018 08:36 PM

"I used a Kodak Vision 3 film stock with 500T (I never know whether I should prefer 200T or not, I'm easily scared by the eventuality of a bad weather..). "

Probably a two-camera setup would be the solution? If you, in order to avoid some of the film exposed to light, don’t want to dynamically swap the cartridges (e.g., ISO 40 and ISO 500, depending on the available light). The camera you use may not be that heavy.

At least I’m thinking of such a setup. Of course, it depends on whether I can get a second Canon 1014 XL-S relatively inexpensively – just bidding on a second one on eBay. If I get it, I plan to carry both 1014’s with me, one loaded with the 40 color and the other with the 500 BW Kodak films.

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Pierre Beuzat
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Registered: Nov 2015

posted January 28, 2018 02:06 PM

I never thought about this idea... thanks for that Werner!

Do you have an idea about the average cost of such cameras?

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Werner Ruotsalainen
Film Handler

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From: Helsinki, Finland
Registered: Dec 2017

posted January 28, 2018 10:28 PM

"Do you have an idea about the average cost of such cameras? "

Depends on the model. You can get the Canon 1024 XL-S for around 400 euros. There are several copies of the camera on the European eBays too right now (I'm currently bidding one). The only disadvantage of this camera is the weight (2.5kg); otherwise, an excellent one with Pro8 support, should you want to (later) make use of the unused film area. (I'll do the gate widening by hand as the Pro8 prices are just too high for me, who live in Europe, because of their being situated in the US (postage fees are huge and one also needs to do the paperwork to avoid the customs).)

The model you show in your videos (are you shooting with that Canon model?) must be much-much cheaper (around 100 euros?) and much-much lighter. However, it doesn't have the niceties of the 1024 XL-S: the 1.4 max. aperture and the 220-degree "low light" mode. These two are very important in low light.

Unfortunately, the new Kodak S8 camera, which does have its advantages (mainly, 1, already-widened gate making use of the entire film width with accordingly & properly centered lens (just like the full Pro8 mod) and 2, audio recording) and weighs a LOT less than the 1014, is just too overpriced at around $2500+.

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Dominique De Bast
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From: Brussels, Belgium
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posted January 29, 2018 02:36 AM

Pierre, if you consider using two different cartriges, you can can do that with the same camera and avoid the troubles and the expenses. You just have to carry a spare cartrige in your pocket in case of bad weather. If you put a on finished cartrige from the camera, you will just loose about 10 images, which is less that one second (you can of course put it back in the camera to finish it). The only disavantage is that the meter teller of your camera will be set on 0 again. Maybe a good idea to carry a pen as well and to note on the cartrige label how many meters are remaining.

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Dominique

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Oemer Yalinkilic
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany
Registered: Jul 2003

posted January 30, 2018 03:42 PM

I like it so much. It's great, specially from my view, because Berlin is my home town.

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Pierre Beuzat
Film Handler

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From: Lyon, France
Registered: Nov 2015

posted February 06, 2018 02:50 AM

Thanks a lot for the details Werner.

Dominique, it seems to be the cheapest way to do it indeed. That's definitely what I'll do next time!

Oemer I'm glad you can still see your city with another perpective [Smile]

(even though I hope my view isn't too "touristic")

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