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Paul Stapleton
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From: Scunthorpe, England
Registered: Dec 2018


 - posted December 03, 2018 08:12 AM      Profile for Paul Stapleton   Email Paul Stapleton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello, thank you for letting me join the forum.

I have recently helped my Grandmother move out of the house where she and my Grandpa lived for around 50 years. Whilst clearing out the loft I found my Grandpa's old Bell and Howell 8mm camera and a huge amount of films.

There was no projector, so I looked on eBay and bought a Eumig 605D, which I have found to be quite easy to use.

The films have been great - there are lots from the 60s of my mum when she was a kid, and also video of my great grandmother, who I never met. I have been going through each one in turn and want to prepare the highlights to show to my Grandma at Christmas.

However, I am having one problem which I am hoping to get your expert advice on if possible please. I originally thought that grandpa had been aiming too low, and cropping peoples heads off a bit, but it now appears that the projector seems to be taking the top 15% from the image, and putting it at the bottom of the screen, so that the image appears split.

Is there please any way that the projector can be altered to align the image properly?

I have done quite a bit of google searching and could find no answers. I have also looked all around for an obvious place to make an adjustment on the projector, but couldn't find this.

Thank you very much in advance for any responses, which are gratefully appreciated.

Paul

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted December 03, 2018 08:21 AM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul there is a framing adjustment knob on the side of the projector which will center the film frame in the gate.

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John Armer
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 - posted December 03, 2018 08:23 AM      Profile for John Armer   Email John Armer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul A is correct - but I think the framing on those projectors is a lever which is on the top of the projector, near to where the film is inserted.

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted December 03, 2018 08:27 AM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John is correct, I just pulled up the manual for the 607D which I assume is the same design, and the framing is in fact a lever on the top of the machine as John describes:

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/904468/Eumig-Mark-607-D.html?page=4#manual

I have never had one of these projectors, but they look like really attractive and well designed machines.

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Brian Fretwell
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 - posted December 03, 2018 01:12 PM      Profile for Brian Fretwell   Email Brian Fretwell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The 510D had the same arrangement for framing. I assume they didn't change much.

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Will Trenfield
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, UK
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 - posted December 03, 2018 02:11 PM      Profile for Will Trenfield   Email Will Trenfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Mark 501 uses that framing lever design as well. If it inna broke dunna change it.

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted December 03, 2018 03:09 PM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The 605D is shown in the attached picture. The framing control is just to the left of the feed spool above the lamp house.
https://www.van-eck.net/img/itable/images/film_57_Mark%20605%20D_1506603097804.jpg

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Paul Stapleton
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 - posted December 04, 2018 03:25 AM      Profile for Paul Stapleton   Email Paul Stapleton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dear all,

Thank you for your replies - that manual has been really useful and the adjustment that you recommended worked perfectly thank you.

I found one last night from my parents wedding in the early 70s which they will love to see, especially now that their heads will be on top of their bodies rather than beneath their feet!

Yes, the Eumig seems like a sturdy bit of kit. The only problem that I have had, is that at first the auto feed seemed to chew a few rolls, so now I trim the first 1cm off. The rolls have been stored a long time, so they seem to have a bit of a kink in the end which wasn't passing through the mechanism

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Will Trenfield
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 - posted December 04, 2018 05:53 PM      Profile for Will Trenfield   Email Will Trenfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi, Paul. Eumig provided film trimmers with their projectors but they are often missing. These cut the film straight across but left the corners trimmed at a slight angle. The film shouldn't be cut through a sprocket hole. Enjoy the nostalgia!

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