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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted December 28, 2018 12:15 PM

Paul ...

what is the "official" title or serial number for the Eumig 938 super 8 projector?

It may just be that this projector just comes up rarely, or I am typing it in in a way that I am missing ones that may be on sale.

thanks Paul [Smile]

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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted December 28, 2018 06:03 PM

Osi the full model number is Eumig S938 Stereo. I don't think they were ever sold in the USA, I got mine from Canada on Ebay. If I ever put mine up for sale you will be the first to know.

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Osi Osgood
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posted December 29, 2018 10:48 AM

I won't hold out hope on that Paul, they are keepers! [Smile]

Thank you for that info about them NOT being sold in the U.S. (no wonder they aren't showing up on ebay U.S.). Like you, I will hope for a Canada copy, as, the shipping would just KILL from the U.K.

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Mathew James
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From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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posted December 29, 2018 11:08 AM

I'll keep a Canadian eye out for you too Osi!
btw- I wonder how this 'upgraded' model version is? Is it worth watching for as well or too high end?
Eumig S940 stereo multiprocessor
Eumig S940 Stereo

They both look fun with many bells and whistle to play with(and get in trouble with [Smile]

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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted December 29, 2018 12:09 PM

Mathew, the 940 is the same as the 938 with the addition of a microprocessor to control all the recording and playback electronics. From what I have heard the microprocessor can fail, there are no replacements, and when it does fail the projector is essentially useless. Maybe someone can jump in and verify this statement.
They are both beautiful looking projectors.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Lee Mannering
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From: The Projection Box
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posted December 29, 2018 02:09 PM

True. Some years ago a friend fitted the last processor known to mankind after it died. Avoid the 940. Loved mine but with the processor worry let it go. Twas a massive job changing the processor and even he said never again.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted December 29, 2018 02:52 PM

I believe that the S938 Stereo has a similar transit system as have the earlier Eumigs. (Rotating discs.)
It has a knob which turns to adjust its speed with no immediate position to indicate correct 24fps speed.

http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Eumig_S_938_Stereo_Projector

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Paul Adsett
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posted December 29, 2018 03:00 PM

That is true Maurice, but it is a totally different design from the 800 series drive. The 900 series drive has a precision drive for the radial positioning of the metal driving ball, and it is not angled into the rubber discs like on the 800 series. An altogether superior design capable of very precise speed regulation.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Osi Osgood
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posted December 31, 2018 12:28 PM

... and, of course, the 938 does not have that blasted "rear reel" set-up that my beloved but frustrating Eumig 926 stereo, has!

One of the biggest problems I have noted with that rear set-up is that the film can "bounce" a little and so, before the end of a 400ft or 600ft. you're back at the projector as it will lose the image and you have hit that lever to get it back again.

GRRR!

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Paul Adsett
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posted December 31, 2018 03:52 PM

Totally agree with you Osi. That coaxial reel arrangement on the 926GL is the downfall of an otherwise superb projector. Why Eumig ever went to that design is beyond me, but I suspect their brilliant design Engineers lost a battle with the pencil pushing marketeers who thought they had to have something different in the 900 series machines - even if it was no good! [Big Grin]

Anyway, think of the 938 as having all the great quality sound features of the 926GL but with 800ft reel capacity, increased brightness with a 150 watt lamp, and a traditional in-line film path with faultless auto threading. Eumig finally got the 900 series right with the 938 stereo.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Maurizio Di Cintio
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posted December 31, 2018 05:49 PM

Yes, Paul, I agree with you 95%, but the shutter cam on the 926 is made of steel whereas it's plastic on the 938 (and all other 93X model for that matter).

I really can't figure out the logics behing such decisions: they corrected the big coaxial reel downpit but chose to use less resilient material...

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Paul Adsett
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posted January 01, 2019 11:02 PM

Is there any history of problems with the plastic cam on the 938/940, or reason to believe that it will fail before the metal cam on the 926?

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Maurice Leakey
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posted January 02, 2019 05:01 AM

There is only one thing that I like about the S926GL Stereo Sound and that is its two-tone colour scheme.
https://www.van-eck.net/img/itable/images/film_57_S926%20GL_1486473225037.jpg

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Paul Adsett
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posted January 02, 2019 09:12 AM

Well Maurice you can have that look on the 938 as well! Here is my 938 with a 926 cover on it:

I actually prefer the 926 cover. It seems much more sturdy than the thin 938 cover, and the embossed Eumig decal and two-tone finish is very attractive,

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Maurizio Di Cintio
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From: Ortona, Italy
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posted January 02, 2019 02:32 PM

Well Paul, regarding your question, the answer is no, not that I am aware of; but of course steel is sturdier than plastic. My own 926 has had sound heads replaced along with minor details, but the shutter cam and the claw arm pin are still perfect; mind you I have used (abused?) this machine severely...

Anyway I like your S938's cover. I'll do the same with one of my 938 and 940. I would like to have the original designation removed and replaed with the proper one. Who could do that in your opinion?

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