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Topic: Want to creat my own super8 copy
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Dominique De Bast
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Posts: 4486
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted June 23, 2019 04:08 AM
Pierre, the film in your camera is more than probably Kodachrome, which, sadly, cannot be process anymore. I f you buy the new Ektachrome (if your camera accepts 100 asa, which is not common for cameras), be aware that it is sold process not paid and is expensive (a cartridge will allow you to film during 3 minutes at 18 fps, so just imagine the cost for a feature). Add to that the cost to add a track for the sound (and then the trouble to synchronize). I don't want to discourage you but I would not start a project like yours without experience and some money to invest. Using a super 8 camera to make your own films is, however, fun. What camera did you buy ?
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Dominique
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Dominique De Bast
Film God
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From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted June 24, 2019 07:03 AM
Your Kodachrome film, as said before, cannot be process in colour anymore (the specific chemicals for that stock are no longer available). Your two Ektachrome films can be process but they are well outdated and results are hanging on luck. The Ektachrome rated at 160 asa, like your films are grainy. Most of the super 8 cameras were set to be used with 40 asa films and, for the more "recent" at 160 asa. Some top end models (like Beaulieu for example) allows you to set yourself the asa so with those cameras, you can use almost all the films available. Before you use your camera, I advise you to take as much information as you can. For example, there is a sun/artificial light button. When super 8 was introduced, the system was to use films for articial light with a filter built in the camera (to make it easier for the amateurs to film Inside with artificial lightwithout having the trouble to change the filmstock). Modern films are all manufactured for sun light (I mean outdoor shootings), so if you use a modern film, you must set the camera on artificial light in order to film outside. Doing so, you will desactivate the filter. I know it's confusing.
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 27, 2019 10:02 PM
Pierre, I admire your enthusiasm and can tell you that what is in your mind is possible to be done at this time since film stock, lab to process as well as to duplicate are still available. Maybe in the next 20 years they are no longer available.
Second thing, perhaps you do not know, you can also print your digital file to film (16mm or 35mm and if you can slit, of course 8mm too) using a special printer. This will allow you to make your own digest and print it.
There are two things you need to consider if you are going to do that:
a. Copyright laws
b. Price
The copyright laws might be put aside since it is done for personal purposes, but for the price this will take your fortune.
For 20 minutes show you will probably spend about $550 through the most primitive way, i,e using Kodak film stocks (cartridge) like what you just bought and shoot your camera to an LCD screen. You will get a silent digest because there is no longer sound stripped film. If you are going to add the sound strip, add more $150 and add the sound later. You will get only one copy with this way.
If you are going to print using positive film, ANDEC in Germany will do that but I believe it will cost you around $800 for 20 minutes film and again it is a silent film. You will only get one copy with this way. Double the price if you are going to have 2 copies, etc.
If you are going with the most professional one, then you must create a negative film first and print it as positive prints. The price will be more expensive, but you can re-print for more copies. Osi Osgood a member here has done it and can share the price.
For printing film using digital file, I don't have any idea, but I believe it will be cheaper. However, what is the point to watch digital film on super 8mm?. For sure, screening with bluray will be much better.
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