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Trevor Adams
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 763
From: Auckland,New Zealand
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 03, 2019 12:17 AM

Just aquired a Chinon DS300. It shows a nice picture but the only sound I can get out of it is a high pitched whistle.Open to ALL suggestions! [Confused]

Trev

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted September 03, 2019 02:55 AM

Trevor
I have just looked at my log-book as I had a Chinon Sound 7500 with no sound.
I see that the problem was rectified by replacing two faulty power capacitors, 1000uf(microfarad) 50volts. A new 2 amp fuse was also needed.

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Melvin England
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Hull, East Yorkshire, UK
Registered: Feb 2016

posted September 03, 2019 03:25 AM

Trevor - Notwithstanding Maurice's sound advice (no pun intended), I had a problem like this with my projector. I simply pressed the record button for a second or two (no film in the projector)...released it... job done!

Maurice - If my method made you cringe after reading this, my sincere apology!

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted September 03, 2019 04:55 AM

Every little helps (thanks to Tesco). [Big Grin]

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Trevor Adams
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Auckland,New Zealand
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 03, 2019 06:33 AM

Update.'tis the bewitching hour at Auckland(and the rain is pelting down!).I tried the "RECORD' button to no avail.The high pitched squeal just got louder. So,looks like capacitators next ,thanks Maurice. I've had three of these machines and this is the first to remain 'silent".It has been reasonably well stored.I had to clean rust off the lamp pins to get light.Having done that it gave a nice steady picture.Maybe someone has a service manual that mentions the high pitch squeal????Thanks chaps.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted September 03, 2019 10:41 AM

Trevor
You can get a printed repair manual (and also an operator's manual) from Oldtimer Cameras here in the UK.
I use this company very often and can thoroughly recommend them.
https://www.camera-manual.com/model.php?modelid=2587

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 03, 2019 11:31 AM

Hi Trevor, I bought all your 8mm films back in 2011... are you returning now? Good to know that...welcome back! 😄👍

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Trevor Adams
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Auckland,New Zealand
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 03, 2019 07:55 PM

I've just sent off for a copy of the repair manual thanks Maurice.The projected picture is sharp and steady.Had a listen with headphones but no sound (save the high pitch whistle)is getting through at that level.

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 03, 2019 08:18 PM

Other than the ones I've been able to kill by working switches and jacks, the whistles I've had from my machines have been because some amplifier has gone sour.

An amplifier "magnifies" the signals going through it. If the output is fed back to the input, the signal can grow all by itself and the thing doesn't need an input to make an output anymore.

When this is intentional, it's called an "oscillator". When it's not, it's called "instability"! (It's also what happens when somebody with a microphone stands in front of his own speaker.)

I developed a whistle on track 2 of my ST-1200HD. I found the only way to tame it was replace the pre-amp IC for that track.

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Trevor Adams
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Auckland,New Zealand
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 04, 2019 07:32 PM

Reckon you are right Steve!

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