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I personally would not post a film for
Sale here unless I was willing to ship Outside of the UK

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Btw, do you really want to ship a film to Indonesia that will cost GBP 21 for a 200' reel with a risk you can be chargebacked (your money is held and returned to buyer) if the film is not delivered?
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 22, 2013, 05:58 PM:
 
I'll second that Thomas, I'll ship to whoever wants it.
 

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Posted by Gerald Santana (Member # 2362) on April 22, 2013, 05:58 PM:
 
I'll take "Shipping Overseas" if still available... J/K.

Shouldn't this thread be on the 8mm Forum or General Yak?

My 2¢ on this is that a seller should reserve the right to refuse service but, there is no harm in buyer asking politely for service.

My guess is that some folks say U.S. only because they think it is "easier" and that the international sales are a bit more work. The work being; filling out a international shipping label from the post office or printing a shipping label from an invoice through paypal.

Through using the invoice method in paypal, if you don't have the software installed on your computer to print the forms, you may have to get a refund on your shipping label, which takes a couple weeks to get back. When using the paying goods option, it usually works fine, from my end, I've never encountered a problem.

If the seller wants a money order, there are several delays there, both to receive payment and to send out the item. The seller does not have USPS labels, has to go into the P.O., doesn't know how to weigh the item and then use the pricing calculator, how much to charge, etc.. There are a lot of factors there that could be perceived as confusing.

Either way, if you ask politely and explain the costs and shipping methods in a manner that is not confusing to the seller, something may come of this...
 

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Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on April 22, 2013, 07:19 PM:
 
I listed some titles just yesterday, with US shipping, so I'm quite certain this post is directed toward me. Let me say, this is my choice. I nearly got burned last summer selling my Scope print of Romancing The Stone to a guy in Greece. What a friggin' nightmare! It is NOT worth my time and headache, so I can make this choice. Now, if there is something that you may be interested in, I'd be happy to entertain the offer. HOWEVER, I will NOT be responsible for a lost shipment, or a shipment that is at the mercy of the overseas postal service of that particular country.

Thanks!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 22, 2013, 07:37 PM:
 
There's also the other side of the coin Greg, where films are paid
for but not sent, and reminders are useless against promises
that are not kept and weeks turn into months.This subject was
raised last year, and the buyer was the "bad guy", I notioned
that this was not always the case,but was told that not everyone
had time to go to post offices etc, they had lives to lead.I have
since been proved right, as my appeals in the 16mm section will
show. Some people should never advertise films they have no intention of shipping.
 

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Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on April 22, 2013, 07:53 PM:
 
I can see both sides of this coin. Recently I sold a feature print to a person in Spain. The item took 4 weeks to get there and the buyer kept emailing me asking me where it was. It was stuck in customs. But finally it arrived. I work in a place with a shipping dept. so I don't mind shipping overseas. And better Ebay bids that way.
 

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Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on April 22, 2013, 08:13 PM:
 
I get that, Hugh..... many members here know me, and I'm 100% honest. On Ebay, 100% positive feedback. Like I said, I'll entertain it, but the buyer's going to have to accept some risk of the postal service, or buy insurance.

Alan, it may have been Spain I shipped to, not Greece, can't recall... the print was stuck in Customs of THAT country... they were being unreasonable on the buyer proving who he was, and would not release the package... after sending every document of me shipping it, they finally released it.... 6 weeks later. Ebay would not assist me, and of course the USPS wouldn't.
 

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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 23, 2013, 01:03 PM:
 
Also, it appears that paypal takes a bigger chunk out of overseas paypals. I really hate to do it, but I add into my overseas sales, the amount that paypal will take out of the payment before it gets to me, so that I still have just enough to ship the film without it cutting into the actual selling price ...

(which, as has been mentioned, ebay is already digging into, but then, you, as a seller, must take that into account when you first list it ... list it that much higher than what you want to cover the ebay bite) ...

That 2010 I just sold is bei9ng shipped to South Korea. I added ten dollars to the shipping price and sure enough, 9.64 cents were immediately taken out of the paypal before it got to me, leaving only 36 cents above what I needed for shipping.

I had forgotten about that blasted 10 per cent charge that ebay takes from the freaking shipping ... bloody gits!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 23, 2013, 03:09 PM:
 
I sometimes wonder it could be worth the risk of dealing outside ebay, they do tend to push their luck.
 

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Posted by Alex Goedert (Member # 3440) on April 24, 2013, 03:12 AM:
 
Hi, just adding my 2 cents worth...

Up to now, i've dealt with people on this and other forums as well as on eBay; i've paid fro films with credit card, PayPal or wire transfer; i've bought from the usual retailers from the US, UK, France and Belgium; i've bought films from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany, England, Italy, Greece, New Zealand, Australia, the United States and Canada; the films were either shipped directly to my adress or to parcel stations in the US, UK, Germany or France - and with all of the above, i've never, EVER had a problem!
True, some films took longer to reach their destination than others, but most of them were quite quick to reach me (always between 3 days and two weeks). Once a parcel got blocked for a week or two at the german customs office but that's about it.

I'd like to add that, living in Luxembourg, buying films from foreign sellers is the ONLY way i could ever lay my hands on certain copies. With a population of roughly 500.000 and two known collectors (that's including myself!), i'm quite thankful to everyone considering to sell abroad as there's not much of a market around here! :-)

Alex
 

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Posted by Oscar Iniesta (Member # 1731) on April 24, 2013, 08:33 AM:
 
I have found this problem many times, because I have bought 99% of my collection from UK, USA, Germany, France and Italy. A lot of people believe it is a problem to ship abroad. Here in Europe (EU) is easy, because we don´t have taxes. So I enjoy buying my english films, and receiving them at my mailbox even the same week.
I have to say, that english shipping cost is higher than german couriers. But I don´t find the Paypal option on german ebayers and I hate bank transfers.
 

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Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 24, 2013, 01:09 PM:
 
Did anyone read the article in a recent paper here in the UK about the sneaky change in the way post is now priced here in the Uk to within the UK and abroad? Due to the amount of work they get via ebay they decided it doesnt make enough money and takes too much of the counter staffs time, therefore (as i found out on a recent trip to the post office) all the prices have gone up again and parcels that use to cost around £2-£3 are now almost £6 and so on.
Strange isnt it, i thought the fact they were so busy in a recession would have been good news, in a way i can see a part of what they are saying, two weeks ago when i went to post a simple small package i had to wait almost half an hour due to the bloke in front of me having no less than two sackfulls,(i do mean black bin liners full) of packages of differing sizes, all quite small so there were loads of them and each one had to be weighed and small forms for insuranses filled out, WHAT A DICK BRAIN, but hey, thats the postal service.
Its this buisness the PO are now trying to off load and price out as this guy took away enough time for many other customers to have been served.
It use to be the pensioners on a Monday
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 24, 2013, 07:16 PM:
 
I prepared everything at home. I weighed my items with a digital scale, find the shipping cost through the Canada post website, fill the export declaration form, put tha "Air Mail" sticker then bring them to post office.

In the beginning the counter lady still weighted the packages but now she does not care anymore knowing that I always put the dorrect cost. She only stamps the receipt and 10 packages can be sent in leas than a minute. Everybody happy!

What is happening in Royal Mail is similar with the USPS that they see the later increasing work load as a burden instead of happiness. This is due to the government employee's mentality is still taking place i.e that no matter they sit down without work or full of load, they still get the same pay.

What happen in Germany can be a model that the Deutch Post was taken over by DHL so they work as good as and as efficient as a private company.

No wonder like Oscar says above that shipping from Germany is cheap. See its website (www.dhl.de) that to send a 2 kg package to US with insurance up to EUR 500 and tracking is only EUR 16.90. No other company can beat this.

USPS must be bought by FedEx and Royal Mail by Hermes to make it more efficient!

cheers,
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 24, 2013, 08:09 PM:
 
Hermes, I found out, have no distribution stations in the UK,they
actually use forecourt garage stations as depots.I bought a film
from a UK seller a couple of weeks ago that took six days to get to me as they use private cars to carry goods.The delivery companies in the UK, COULD NOT function without the infrastructure of the
Royal Mail. So if you don't mind, we'll keep our Postal system and
the private carriers can fight amongst themselves.A parcel sent
through our post takes 48 hours inland,std price or for extra payment 24. The service on private delivery is non existant if
you miss a drop, especially if you try to contact them online.One
of the problems we have in our postal system, is that we employ
too many non nationals that can neither speak or read our language, as was revealed on a Channel 4 documentary where
Somalies were dumping mail in alleys or abandoning cart loads
in the road side.Government interference again.
So thanks, but no thanks Winbert we'll stay with Royal Mail, the
best service in the world.
 

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Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on April 24, 2013, 09:50 PM:
 
Hugh

I recently spent 2 weeks in England visiting my wifes relatives in Kent. I purchased 3 films from different UK sellers. I was amazed to see them arrive the next day! One was mailed from CHC in the PM and I had it by 11AM nest morning at my relatives house where I was staying. That is outstanding service.

PatD
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 25, 2013, 04:31 AM:
 
Thankyou Pat, I have no links whatsoever to the Royal Mail,but
they have been doing it a long time, and experience does count for a lot. The watchword in this modern world is PROFIT, regardless
of anything else, polititians speak of schools returning profit,surely
things have gone ridiculous.The word SERVICE is becoming a dirty word, the National Health Service, which was one of the first of it's kind, providing healthcare to everyone in this country,the clue
being in the third word of it's title,is expected to make a return,
it also had the Private Sector to contend with,that suddenly had
the right to use NHS facilities to make money, jjust the same as
the private delivery companies are doing with the Royal Mail,
which is one sided,and when I learned of how they operate,
very risky for the sender.
 

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Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on April 25, 2013, 04:49 AM:
 
I'll stick-up for our Post Office too. The service is usually excellent. I rent dvd's send back Monday the next are here most times Wednesday.

I did used to work for the Post Office. but telecommunications side. We used to take a pride in our work, and would go out of our way to give the best, at the time I started is was still government run and a service. Now BT are private the service went obsessed with costs.

I was in field repairs if you think about it. If we sit down drinking tea all day we have done our job well. Everyone's phone is working.

Looking at paypal and the fees they charge has anyone tried using Moneygram?
Pasquale I hope you enjoyed your self here in the UK.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 25, 2013, 05:56 AM:
 
If it is about domestic shipping almost everyone will be happy with his/her governemnt run company due to the service and low price. No one can beat USPS media mail to send 4 kg films for merely $6 to around US mainland.

Only in Canada that domestic shipping can be more expensive than overseas shipping That is true!

Now if we talk overseas shipping than this is the problem (ps: it used to be that USPS had the cheapest shipping method for overseas shipping with it flat rate international up to 4lbs for $12.99, but now they price has also risen up started Feb 2013).

Now see below my experiment to see how efficient is Royal Mail in shipping overseas, using the price finder found in its webiste.

I experimented to send 2 kg small packet (value GBP 100) from UK to Zimbabwe with tracking (delivery confirmation). The cheapest result is globalpriority = £79.45

Now send this item from UK to Germany via Royal Mail and ask someone in Germany to forward to Zimbabwe via DHL.

The result is:

Airsure Small Packets (UK to Germany) = £25.50
+
DHL (Germany to Zimbabwe) = EUR 16.90 eqv. £13.40

Total = £39.90

So if you want to save money, do the above route because there is £40 margin between the price due to the efficiency of DHL.

According to the universal rules (Universal Postal Union/UPU but may have changed now) that "sender takes everything". This means if the cost of sending from A to B is £50, B will not get anything other than to deliver it to the destination.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 25, 2013, 06:03 AM:
 
That philosophy was operated by a large chemical factory my late
Father worked for as a fitter,where pipes containing corrosives
were maintained.The Managemment didn't care how many cups of
tea/coffee you had, as long as the plant was turning over and
making money,thus making a happy working environment for all
concerned.There is a documentary being shown on Monday David
that might be of interest showing the inadequate service private
delivery companies give to the public, this is in the "Dispatches"
series on Channel Four, the timing is perfect.The point I'm also
making, is that all these outside compaies could not operate
without the help of Royal Mail in the UK.It is they who sort all
the individual parcels, and pass them to the individual private
carriers who have no way of doing this, and lets not forget,were
allowed to steal work from the Post Office in the first place,
which is bound to have a "knock on" effect in charging.This is
the "one way street" government officials operate, and if the same rules were applied to bureaucrats in that they were paid
on results, they would be penniless,On the subject of the
dreaded "Moneygrams", they are an abomination,are next to
useless, are NOT universally accepted, and how they replaced the good old International Money Order, God alone knows., again, government making it easy for outside companies to
undermine something tried and tested for something that makes money for a private operator, and invariably doesn't work.
 

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Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on April 25, 2013, 12:06 PM:
 
Hugh I used Moneygram to send money to Thailand before my wife come over. Your correct in saying "Moneygrams", are NOT universally accepted. It was OK for me here in the UK as Post Office use them, but in Thailand and proberly other places too, only banks do them. She had to travel on 2 hour bus to main city where the bank was. I forgot that.

We now use Yorkshire Building Society to send money. Its quick, but not as cheap as IMO

Which reminds me does anyone want to sponsor my rubber trees in Thailand, that's where my last bit went.

Don't Barclay's Bank still do International Money Order? I have used these in the past, it was efficient method and quite cheap too. Think it only was a couple of quid last time I used one, up to £500 I think.

Seems to be the thing now. "If it an't broke, break it, then put something in place that is worse, but say you've fixed it.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on April 25, 2013, 12:52 PM:
 
Exactly David, I know that I had problems with Moneygrams
about a year back trying to pay for films to a chap in Holland, and
he had a terrible time,ending up with me making a bank transfer.
With the old International Money Order, you could cash them anywhere in the world, Bank or P.O. I'm sure a lot of folks in the
USA feel the same way about their USPS as we do ours,these
companies have done sterling work over the years and deserve
our support.In the words of the prophet "Bollocks to the private
deliverers".
 

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Posted by Mark L Barton (Member # 1512) on April 26, 2013, 06:08 AM:
 
I have posted films and cine equipment around the world with no problems. Of course its upto the buyer to judge the cost of purchase against international postage but when its an item you want, well....
Its really upto the seller if they can be bothered to post overseas. Its no different than a locally shipped package/parcel. Yes there may be a tad more customs paperwork involved but if you want to raise some money, sell of some of your collection etc, then make the effort. There are some countries where you do have a problem, I heard Italy was quite difficult to get an international parcel through, even from Europe. The only time I had any problems was sending a 16mm projector to a guy in China, he hadnt paid anything but knew all the costs involved but was very picky about how the projector was packed, so he sent his own guidance and requested photos of teh various packing stages. Eventually when it was finally packed to his standards (imagine a 16mm B&H TQ3 packed to the extent it looks like a wrapped dish washer..huge|!) Once that was all done and I d spent a small fortune on bubble wrap and packing tape...never heard from him again. D'OH!
 

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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 26, 2013, 12:47 PM:
 
I've noticed that Winbert, when I've bought from Canada. It tends to be as expensive or more expensive then shipping overseas to the UK! Strange, as were right next to each other. It's turned me off from a good number of purchases from Canadas ebay.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 26, 2013, 01:41 PM:
 
Osi, the Canada Post is the most inefficient company in the world (as well as Air Canada). No wonder there are some companies operating shipping service that actually brought collected items to border and send them through USPS!!!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 01, 2013, 10:58 AM:
 
Well the documentary was screened on UKs Channel Four, highlighting the treatment parcels receive when in the hands of
private carriers.It seemed to be a competition between the morons
these companies employ, who can damage the most packages.
Computers, TVs etc all came in for a pounding, they were even
recorded looting a case of expensive wine! The managers were all
shocked and promised retribution, but obviously employing
someone as Supervisor was not on the cards.
The private companies delivery of letters faired even worse,
where letters were torn up and left in waste bins or left in unlocked panniers on bicycles for hours on end in the street
where anyone can take them, so much for the private operators
boast of security! One of the large firms said it delivered SIX
days per week, when in actual fact it only does THREE. this comes at a time when the Prime Minister is trying to privatise the Royal Mail, obviously a "backhander" in it for him.
The treatment of packages by private companies certainly
explains a damaged 16mm projector, a burst tin of white gloss
paint, a can of expanding foam exploding and entombing the
rest of the order in plastic and many shattered film cans & broken spools.Not to say that RM are perfect, but next to these
cowboys, they shine.
 

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Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 01, 2013, 04:07 PM:
 
I just purchased an item off of Ebay Germany and it shipped on Wednesday April 24th and I received it today. That is great! And the shipping was around 16 Euros with $500 insurance.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 01, 2013, 04:13 PM:
 
Yes Alan that is Deutch Post tariff after taken over by DHL.

Beside the insurance, it will also come with tracking.

You can ship max 2 kg (approx. 4lb) for the same price.

Imagine buying 8 200' from Germany for merely 16EUR for the shipping cost. No other companies can beat this. I love that!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 01, 2013, 04:32 PM:
 
We've all had experience of big take overs that while in competition, promise all, until they move in and have you at their mercy.Sorry but I have had experience of private enterprise,and
it isn't always for the benefit of the customer.This is the ugly side
of capitalism.
 

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Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on May 02, 2013, 04:00 PM:
 
Hugh, Didn't see that programme as I don't have TV licence (too much crap) I'll try to watch on 4OD.

Funny had a parcel today from Myhermes, guess what private car. Now this makes me think, do they have proper insurance for their car? Because if they are using it for business on a private policy and are involved in accident, the policy is null and void.

Must add this three items from ebay all sent Monday, two arrived next day, guess who? (Post Office). Forth day myhermes.

Hugh did I go "A Bridge Too Far" the other day but its "The Way Ahead" to keep collecting film.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 02, 2013, 04:37 PM:
 
Well done Dave, I can understand people thinking they're getting
a good deal by these companies like DHL, but the truth is they
bring nothing to the table regarding takeovers, mergers usually
cost folks their jobs, and they just use what was an already established business.Thus when you become the only game in town, that's when the prices go up, and then it's too late.
You only have to compare what happened in the UK with Local
Councils that supplied affordable housing, they were hammered by succesive Tory Governments until now we have
private Housing Associations that can charge whatever rent they want. Once a countries own postal system is in private
ownership, it's a very serious backward step.
 

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Posted by Thomas Smith (Member # 1889) on May 03, 2013, 03:01 AM:
 
Sorry to everyone to keep on but since I first
Posted this subject and before somebody replies
I know you can't make members ship overseas but
Members are generally not shipping overseas how
Can this be a international forum site should there
be a rule that if you are not willing too,you can't
Post a item for sale, what would members say if all
UK dealers refused to ship overseas but posted there
Listed films for sale here ?
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 03, 2013, 06:27 AM:
 
It is Ok for me. There are two ways dealing with this:

1. Use UK address to buy then forward to my address overseas
2. Buy from local dealer who can import from UK

Questin from me to you, Thomas:

A. Do you hear the risk I told when sending overseas that include a possibility buyer doing chargeback which will also imply on shipping cost spent by seller?

B. Do you really want buy from overseas and are ready to pay premium shipping cost (which usually come with tracking and insurance) or you just want to use cheapest method like small packet but expecting high to arrive?

For B, you can then send an email saying "I am ready to use FedEx/UPS (usually $40sh for a 400') to buy your film, now please send to me"
 

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Posted by Thomas Smith (Member # 1889) on May 03, 2013, 08:45 AM:
 
Hello winbert I won a film from the states
This week on eBay a four reel feature and I
Could have had shipping at 39 dollars or 54
Dollars priority USPS which I was happy to
Pay but as I said in my first post there has
Been an increase in sellers from the states
And Europe not offering overseas shipping and
As this forum is international I think it could
Overall overtime affect members visiting the forum
I think shipping overseas has had a bad press
On the forum and is putting members off I ship
Overseas and have only lost one parcel and that was
Returned to me from Germany
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 03, 2013, 09:18 AM:
 
I honestly can't see the problem here.If someone prefers to have
an item sent by surface mail or airmail, then proof of posting
is all that is required.I have successfully sent films on this forum
to different countries,all those folks received their films.As for
airfreight being any faster, if it's coming to the UK It'll reside in
customs for a while,thus making the extra expense of airmail futile.Then when the carriers like Hermes (or should that be Herpes) get hold of it, it's anyones guess when it arrives.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 03, 2013, 12:07 PM:
 
Thomas as I said earlier as well as in many posts, that there are no specific rules in this forum that seller must sell overseas.

Plus, if you are one of the buyers who accepts the condition that if the parcel is missing in transit that is not the seller's mistake, then you are a good buyer as well as a risk taker buyer.

But not all buyers are also like you as well as not all sellers are risk taker.

I am still sending item overseas. One time I sent a film to South Africa which the seller specifically not wanted to use traecable service. It was $80sh only for the shipping without tracking and I was paid by paypal. On the other hand, Paypal is specifically stated that items must be sent with traceable courier (receipt or proof of posting is not enough, believe me!).

I am a risk taker, so I shipped it to South Africa.

Once the item is missing, I would not only be loosing my film but also $80 for shipping if the buyer submitted a complain to paypal.

There is so much hassle with shipping international, because not all buyers are the same. Most of buyers if they are informed the cost of shipping is that high, first word to burst is "you take money from shipping, don't you?".

I once shipped a big box to Norway via sea mail and it arrived 2 months. Lucky the buyer is very patient man. Thanks Vidar.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 03, 2013, 12:57 PM:
 
I understand the position you're speaking from Winbert, but the
only problems I ever encountered with missing parcels, were the
ones that were never sent in the first place, this of course does
in no way reflect on an honest seller like yourself or any good folks
on here, but I have encountered this on more than one occasion
where assurances were given, but films refused to appear.Just
lately, a film I bought on ebay many weeks ago, had not been
sent by the seller in an oversight, but have been told it's on it's
way.If the labels are clearly addressed, I see no reason why it
shouldn't reach it's destination, unless like I said,it was never
sent.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 03, 2013, 01:28 PM:
 
Hugh, if you are never experiencing missing packets not even a single one, you are then the lucky man.

Please understand that the lowest shipping cost does not have insurance at the first place. At least in Canada Post no matter you have money and say to the lady counter that you want to add $100 insurance for the small packet international, the lady will reply "you cannot".

Missing in transit is not only about the items were never sent in the first place like you said, but the force majeure that no one can encounter before.

What happen if (knock, knock) the airplane was in accident, or the delivery truck plungs into the river?. Your item will not be delivered.

This is not to mention the common problem in shipping company that you can trust the Royal Mail employees but you cannot control the employees in the other countries who are looting your packet, right?
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 03, 2013, 04:08 PM:
 
I take the point Winbert, but in all my years of buying/selling
films etc,the only time I suffered serious loss was through dishonesty,where the seller does not send and does not answer
calls or sends in fake parcel numbers.The only time I have had
damage done through inland mail, was a GS1200 coming back
from repair that had its carry handle smashed through the metal
casing and a can of Thermofilm crushed in transit.Private carriers
hold the record on damaged items I have received inc. a B&H
16MM bought nearly new cond. and sundry other items.
The most serious being deception, one transaction cost me
$1650.00 together with another $350.00 to another seller that
simply didn't send the goods.As for films lost in the post, not
a one.
 

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Posted by Thomas Smith (Member # 1889) on May 03, 2013, 05:20 PM:
 
Taking forum members points of view into account and
The fact that members do not have to offer shipping
overseas the fact is will this effect some members not
Visiting the forum one of the main reasons I visit this
Site is for any films for sale or wanted posts but I'm
Now viewing the forum less often recently because most
Of the time now I cannot purchase any films from forum
Members ?
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on May 03, 2013, 05:49 PM:
 
That is a very valid point Thomas, most members I'm sure have
no fears of sending abroad. If anything,it's more expensive for
us in this part of the world that are afflicted with customs costs.
Like I said before,if the goods are well packed and clearly addressed,they should arrive intact.I think the temptation may
be for members to use Ebay,but a lot of people do offer their
items on here first.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on May 03, 2013, 07:41 PM:
 

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The fact that members do not have to offer shipping
overseas the fact is will this effect some members not
Visiting the forum

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