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Topic: 2 Bruce Lee Features for sale - in English
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Barry Attwood
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1411
From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted July 09, 2013 12:59 AM
Dear Collectors,
Those who know me and my lists should know by now that my prices are always a starting price, and I have discounts in every issue. It is perhaps unfortunate that the price I paid was listed in the link Keith put up for collectors to see the quality (which is superb, by the way) of the print. I have already had enquiries about each film, and not one of them mentioned the price as being too high, tell me how many Bruce Lee films except Enter The Dragon has anyone seen in feature length with an ENGLISH soundtrack.
If collectors really think they are too dear, they will not buy, it's as simple as that, and with the way I do my lists in 2 months time if not sold they will have a reduction on them.
I believe these are 2 very rare films in superb condition for the age of the films, and I've priced them accordingly, no one knows what my final price to buy them off Keith was, and I'm not going to tell you, but the £200 price tag was not come to lightly, as I've been selling films for over 20 years, and this is the first time I've had prints of these titles in English sound, so extremely rare.
If they don't sell in the end I was wrong, and I'll have 2 more films in my collection, but I thought I'd give true collectors the chance to buy these REEL RARITIES.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 09, 2013 07:27 PM
Michael, I take the point, the lad that sold his films on ebay, graciously gave way.My thinking is, there wasn't even the hint
of "I'll give it a few weeks, then put them on a list", then the
guise of providing a service to collectors, you can't have it both ways, profiteering is just that.Sorry but I creep and crawl to no man.What was that title of WC Fields film, oh yes,"Never Give A Sucker An Even Break"It's a crying shame the chap didn't offer
them first on here,where at least he would have reaped some reward for his redubbing.
[ July 09, 2013, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Hugh Thompson Scott ]
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 10, 2013 12:48 PM
Hugh ...
a professional seller, (Barry, by the way), doesn't have to wait for days or weeks to re-sell a print. Why? They are in the very business to sell prints, to move prints, and so Barry and any other seller has every right to move the print on whether the very day or weeks later.
Barry, by the way is a fellow film lover extroidinare, so he's not just selling films, he enjoys the very perusal of prints. He should be congratulated for making these prints available in the first place. he could have just put them in his private collection.
Lastly, the price is never too high if someone is willing to buy the print at said price.
enuf said.
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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 997
From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted July 10, 2013 01:51 PM
Firstly, can I thank Hugh for calling me "The Lad" - at 63 that is an honor ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I put the films on eBay for a total of 10 days - in that time the maximum number of"watchers" was about 20. There were TWO bidders in 10 days.
Yes, I would have liked to have gotten more for the films but, at the end of the day, I bought them from another collector some time ago and, after my fees for eBay/Paypal were deducted I made my money back.
I appreciate the point that Hugh was making (by the way Hugh, I didn't do the re-dubbing - that was already done when I purchased the films), but at the end of the day, the films ceased to "be mine" the minute the winning bidder paid and the new owner has the right to do with his purchase as he wishes.
Yes, I could have put them on the forum to sell but after my last foray in selling films on the forum,over 18 months ago caused me no end of stress and problems, I said I would not do it again - but that is another story......
I am sure that most "serious collectors" on these forums "watch" eBay and if they wanted the films then they would have placed bids - only one forum member did - and that was Barry.
This hobby is a conundrum at times - I paid a "small" amount for a 3 x 400ft "Ten Commandments". When I sold it on eBay (sometime later - the starting price was what I paid for it)it finally sold for TEN times that amount, which amazed me. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
The goods are worth what the individual is prepared to pay and is happy with - I know,I certainly wouldn't have paid what the buyer of "Ten Commandments" paid me but, at the end of the day, he was happy and left me excellent feedback on eBay.
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"We'll find 'em in the end, I promise you. We'll find 'em. Just as sure as a turnin' of the earth".
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 10, 2013 07:12 PM
Keith, I bow to you Sir, you're a Gentleman. I'm not wholly convinced by the arguments, I was under the impression, obviously a misconception on my part, that we tried to help each
other on this forum, not use it as a means of profiteering. I accept
that dealers operate for profit, but it sticks in my throat,that
when the same films would be offered back to Barry, there would be nothing like his asking price offered.Like Michael said, there's no need to fall out, but it is a point.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 28, 2013 08:40 PM
Andrew, I have dealt with Barry from since he took over the firm
from the CROOK Gary Watson, who still owes me £350.00 .
Barry is a grand lad, but to my mind jumped too soon, my opinion, the.chap who sold his films say's he has no gripe, fair enough, everyone's
a winner.
[ July 28, 2013, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: Hugh Thompson Scott ]
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