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Topic: Send me a list! ---> not good on sale category
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted April 13, 2015 05:39 PM
Everything should always be transparent Doug. It is simply the only way by the forums very own rule book, which I hasten to add, is for very good reason, description and price.
Otherwise you end up in the situation of staggered selective selling lists.
When this happens, bad feeling creeps in. We then go down to 4398 members instead of 4399 (hopefully soon to be 4400!!) and the whole thing soon becomes unattractive and falls into disrepute.
That is my opinion. No doubt as ever, I will be slated on it, but as I see it, if you have nothing to hide then transparency works really well for both buyer as well as seller. For everything else that needs selling, there is always e bay!
It would be perfect if everyone selling on here can be treated as a trusted friend and therefore you know instantly that what you are purchasing are quality goods from one enthusiast to another. If everyone follows the same route as my last few purchases from trusted genuine sellers on here, even if it is does have to be from oversees, there are no issues whatsoever... Simples ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 13, 2015 09:50 PM
As I am the starter of this topic, I should bring back this to the ultimate aim that I was wishing for.
First, I don't want to visit a RE/MAX website (selling/renting properties) to find an add saying "email me for a list of house for sale"
Since this is 8mmforum and specifically on the sale category for films, I supposed to see films list.
The list is beneficial for members to know what other titles are available on 8mm. This already happened in many posts that from this sub-category we found many info about releases, e.g from Francisco's films sale I knew now that Jörg Harnischmacher also released several Disney titles.
The films list (with price) also can be helpful for other members to measure what is the current market price.
Second, however, it is also my view that it is not proper for other members to criticize the price put by individual seller (another members), since this is totally the seller's prerogative unless from company/commercial stores because this kind of store follow the commercial/trade rules stated by the government.
cheers,
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Winbert
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 14, 2015 02:17 PM
I would only add that if the reason for not posting a list is because a person feels that they're prices might be a little too high, or the person might get any negative feedback, well, that's just a part of being a member of a forum. Potentially lower the prices just a tad bit to accommodate the demand, or whatever the demands of fellow collectors might be, if possible, accommodate those demands. The person would probably find that they will sell more films upon doing so.
That's not saying the person should let they're beloved prints go for pennies, but it does just slightly ruffle the "collective feathers" to only put up a request for a list and not post the films on the actual forum, as this very series of posts on this topic, illustrates.
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 14, 2015 06:07 PM
Doug, if we are allowd to do "send me alist/catalog" then the other way around in 8mm forum, somebody may say "send me a PM how to fix a GS1200"
In General Yak, a member will say "I have a funny accident, send me an email to know it"
In equipment wanted category, I will write "I am looking for an 8mm equipment, send me a PM to know what I am looking for".... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
This forum is supposed to share the information, not such things...
One big thing I just found ...apparently as per the forum rules say, I quote:
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RULE #10: Rules regarding the Equipment Wanted/For Sale category.:
UNACCEPTABLE:
If you are just advertising your normal line of goods, this is not the place for you. Go away.
If you are discontinuing something from your normal line of goods, posting a note here stating "we are almost sold out" will be deleted.
If your post says something such as "contact us for a catalog", just turn around right now.
So I guess we have to follow the forum rules. It is your decision now, Doug.
Cheers,
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Winbert
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 15, 2015 08:39 PM
OK then Doug fair enough you are the moderator here,
Adrian, just to clarify why I was disturbed, while I was not interested with the list has been explained on my earlier post.
It was supposed this forum is to share information. My view is posts such as "where is the list?", "I have not received it", "send me a list" is not information that is informative.
In fact another forum that we all know has now stated a new rule whoever use to post only for selling his/her films then he/she was asked to use ebay and will no longer be able to post.
Another thing which I raised too is about the internet traffic. The more uninformative posts such as "where is the list?", "I have not received it", "send me a list" is a burden cost to the owner of the forum. However since Brad Miller has no objection for this matter, so I don't see any more problem here.
We cannot say "just ignore if you don't like the post", because the more uninformative information in the forum is the harder we found specific topics we are looking for using google or the forum search engine. Again this is about the internet traffic since server is flooded with so many texts that must be sorted out. (ps: Have you found it is disturbing now when searching on google with keywords "super 8" or "8mm" you are flooded with the information about "Super 8" a film of Steven Spielberg and "8mm" a film of Nicolas Cage? that such the thing)
I share the view that hijacking post and criticizing the prices are not a good manner
cheers,
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Winbert
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