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Topic: " The Flinstone Flyer " (Flinstones TV Show) Columbia
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 21, 2009 11:51 AM
Bill Phelps ...
A question about your copy of "Flinstone Flyer".
Is it a good deal shorter than your other Flinstone episodes?
My 400ft of this title runs only 15 minutes, (the other Flinstones episodes are a good 20 or so minutes). It is also a UK printing of this title, (judging by the leader and the "lilly"
, which, in itself, is interesting, as it is not a British woman alone, but a British couple, dressed in a VERY 60's British outfit. Also strangely, the episode has perfect color, but the "lilly" looks awful!).
I'm curious as, if there was a US printing of this specific episode, was it longer? The UK episode which I have, has no splices, but is an obviously crudely edited, (spliced) episode.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted October 25, 2009 08:54 AM
Very strange indeed!
I know that my copy, running at the proper 24 fps, only goes about 15 minutes, but there must be more cut out of it than in yours. Does yours have that customary "Flinstones" title card before that first shot of Fred in the hammock?
The last shot is color on mine.
It has Fred trying to sleep, then going over to barney to find out what the pounding is all about. Barney shows him his machine and Fred goes back, onlt to soon find Barney flying past him. This gets Fred up and he then goes over to try it himself, insisting it be called, "The Flinstone Flyer". Right after barney walks off, saying, "Well, back to the drawing board!" ...
... we then cut to Fred in bed, acting like he's sick.
My question is, does yours have about four minutes of material at this spot, explaining why he is in bed? (as Wilma and Betty wanted Fred and Barney to take them to the opera), as this seems to be the part where a majority of material missing.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted October 25, 2009 12:46 PM
Mystery Solved!
That burns me up. It is, in fact, a cutdown of a cutdown!
I wonder if, on the original negative for this, that scene got scratched up or damaged, and they had to edit out that whole section, instead of just a splice are, as I can verify that there is NO splice throughout the whole print.
This print I have is definitely from a british origin.. OK, I guessing that, as therer is a lilly of a very british couple.
The question is ...
1. Was this an earlier edition of the digest?
2. Was it a later edition of the digest?
3. Was it a pirate/bootleg version?
I did notice that the negative used has a little more surface specks than normal. Most of these Flinstones appear to have absolutely impeccable print quality and color, considering that they come from early 60's TV
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Osi Osgood
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posted October 25, 2009 01:15 PM
I bought this from Derann's used list, and it just had the main title card, with the characters, taped onto a generic box.
All I know is I feel screwed, but, perhaps, on a plus side, I might have a REEL rarity!
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