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John Karas
Junior
Posts: 3
From: Macungie, PA. USA
Registered: Nov 2010

posted January 10, 2011 06:03 AM

I'm having trouble with rewinding of a 2300' film back to the reel. It is loose and sagging after the rewind. I tried to rewind it back again and the same thing happened? Is it the take up reel, the film or the film reel? I didn't have the trouble with another 2300' film i viewed. Anyone run in to this before?

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Dan Lail
Film God

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From: Loganville, Georgia, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted January 10, 2011 07:59 AM

Hi, John, it's the film. When running this film, before attaching it to the take up reel, twist the film 180 degrees. This should give a tighter take up. Don't forget to twist it back 180 degrees before rewinding.

The film you have on the reel right now that is sagging can be tight wound on hand rewings by applying some drag on the reel while rewinding it by hand.

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Roy Neil
Expert Film Handler

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From: Menlo Park, CA
Registered: Sep 2007

posted January 13, 2011 09:05 AM

If you are rewinding on your projector then I am going to guess it could be the weak power rewind on most projectors. 2300 is a big reel for these little projectors and if you take Dan's advice and switch to hand rewinds I think you will be much happier with the result. I never rewind on the projector; it wears out the projector, it rarely provides a tight wind, and its too slow. Rewinding by hand not only provides a tighter wind but its faster .. AND you burn off some of the popcorn you just ate [Smile]

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John Karas
Junior
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From: Macungie, PA. USA
Registered: Nov 2010

posted January 13, 2011 09:36 AM

Thanks for the info Dan, that worked better but still alittle to loose. I think the plasticorp reel the film is on is alittle bent/warped too. I also tried rewinding it emulsion side up and the film was really warped looking on the reel. There's no vinegar smell, so that's good. I put the reels on my old victor 65-10 16mm and rewound it slow with my finger slightly dragging on the reel, that got it back on alittle tighter. The projector i'm using is a Bell & Howell 2580. I was also using a plastic 2300' take-up reel. I'm bidding on some nice golberg 2000' steel reels so i can clean the film with some Kodak movie film cleaner with lubricant that i have. Maybe i can make a bench winder using those victor reel arms or find an old craig/Kalart editor.

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Jeff Taylor
Film Handler

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From: Chatham, NJ
Registered: Aug 2005

posted January 14, 2011 08:19 AM

If you do decide to soak the print make sure it's reverse wound. Your print is slightly cupped which is causing the saggy wind--Dan is right on the money. Soaking with a reverse wind may relax it a bit.

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Jeff

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