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Topic: DISNEY SHORTS ON 16MM
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Michael De Angelis
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Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted October 30, 2005 12:25 AM
Hi to all,
In all my years of collecting, I have never seen Disney 16mm for sale.
Either through the Select Film Library which sold films in NYC, or in the Disney souvineer shops that are located throughout the Disney Parks.
In 1973, Alice Tully Hall's- Lincoln Center in NYC, hosted a 50th year retrospective. The exhibition was by advanced ticket sales, and many of the features, cartoon shorts and documentaries which had not been showcased theatrically in years was given its proper treatment. It was a glorious summer film festival and all of the 35mm films were in mint shape.
As you exited the hall, there was an area that sold all of the Disney prepackaged 8mm extracts in Super 8 Sound at list price. 16mm prints were not available for sale.
However in years past, when the Disney Channel's TV programming was not a part of Basic Cable Televison service, and only exclusive to channel subscribers, they included extended footage to the contents which is seen in the souvineer prints.
It was wonderful.
Michael
P.S. Back in 1973, I was aghast in hearing Donald Duck's dialog as he cleaned the main spring in Clock Cleaners. Back in 1973, I was certain that he said the 'F' word.
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John A. Pommon
Film Handler
Posts: 69
From: San Francisco, California 94131
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 05, 2006 12:42 AM
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P.S. Back in 1973, I was aghast in hearing Donald Duck's dialog as he cleaned the main spring in Clock Cleaners. Back in 1973, I was certain that he said the 'F' word.
I've got an IB blue track Disney 16mm "Clock Cleaners" [purchased via Big Reel a few years back].
In the diatribe between the mainspring and Donald . . . maybe it's the power of suggestion . . . but everyone I've shown the print to easily agrees Donald quacked "F*** You!" to the clock spring. After which the clockspring says, "May I?"
Wal Mart thought so too and banned the "Fun on the Job" video.
(the DVDs have since been re-dubbed).
Another all time classic Disney on 16MM is the Disney Silly Symphony, "The Grasshopper and the Ants". In this toon the lazy grasshopper proudly sings, "Oh the World Owes Me a Living" . . but the grasshopper's voice and laugh are in the voice of Goofy. [Pinto Colvig].
The grasshopper's theme song, voiced by Pinto Colvig, "The World Owes Me a Living" went on to become Goofy's theme song also originally voiced by Colvig.
[ February 05, 2006, 08:48 PM: Message edited by: John A. Pommon ]
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John A. Pommon
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From: San Francisco, California 94131
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 06, 2006 03:12 AM
Mike, I misread the article . . . the infamous Donald explitive is unchanged in the DVD:
" . . . worthy of interest is the inclusion of the unexpurgated version of the Mickey Mouse/Donald Duck/Goofy cartoon Clock Cleaners, which features Donald Duck, according to some members of the moral minority, saying "F*** you". The redubbed version was present on the DVD release of The Great Mouse Detective, and now hearing the unmolested version, I must admit that it does sound like "F*** you" . . ."
Hey Mike, you haven't lost your mind . . I get the same "take" from my print.
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Jeff Missinne
Film Handler
Posts: 69
From: Superior, WI USA
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 16, 2012 06:06 PM
I should clarify that the dozen or so Disney cartoons released in 16mm sound versions by Hollywood Films were all uniformly edited to about 175 feet (roughly 4:45 running time) and were also re-titled. Prints of these are not too hard to find; titles include Mickey Plays Santa Claus, Movie Star Mickey, Donald Duck The Mechanic, Gold Rush Mickey, Mickey and the Giant, Mickey and the Lilliputians, All American Mickey, Mickey Gives a Party, Mickey Saves The Air Mail, Mickey's Trick Horse, Mickey's Exciting Picnic, Robinson Crusoe Mickey, Mickey and Simon Legree (last two are heavy on racial caricatures) and Christmas Toy Shop (a Silly Symphony.)
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