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Pablo Alvarez Roth
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Posts: 129
From: Chile
Registered: Aug 2006


 - posted August 25, 2007 08:57 PM      Profile for Pablo Alvarez Roth   Email Pablo Alvarez Roth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
hello guys,

I was just given a bell and howell filmosound 644, but it came with a broken plastic worm gear.

were can I get one and how much would this gear cost?

thanks

pablo.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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From: France
Registered: Oct 2004


 - posted August 26, 2007 01:41 AM      Profile for Jean-Marc Toussaint   Author's Homepage   Email Jean-Marc Toussaint   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pablo, you should contact Phil at Classic Home Cinema as I think he's got replacement for this part.

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Jeff Taylor
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From: Chatham, NJ
Registered: Aug 2005


 - posted August 29, 2007 09:47 AM      Profile for Jeff Taylor   Email Jeff Taylor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frankly, the issue isn't so much finding a new gear (the new black ones are what you want--the original white ones crack), the problem is that the machine must be totally disassembled to replace the gear, and to do a proper job you need the Bell & Howell alignment jigs to get everything reassembled and timed properly. In the states this is around a $250 repair job, and few feel the machines are worth it with so many clean Eiki's and Elmo's going for far less.

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Mark Todd
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From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003


 - posted September 01, 2007 10:02 AM      Profile for Mark Todd     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Isn`t there a problem with some of the black ones swelling with heat after about 30 mins and the grey ones are best.
Also a company in canada is making origional like ones with a better metal core and better quality and more depth and strength to the nylon.
Thats what an interesting chap in the know was telling me.
best Mark.

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Simon McConway
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From: Doncaster, UK
Registered: Jun 2004


 - posted September 01, 2007 04:54 PM      Profile for Simon McConway     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Phil's worm gears are good; they are one solid piece of material, which in my experience, does not and cannot expand. Pretty good, once run-in. The changing, as has been said, is the complex bit. I have done quite a few of these, after being trained up by an ex-B & H engineer; some take only 2 hours to change, others take a day or more, if problems are run into. The whole mechanism must be reset and re-timed. And no, before you ask, I can't offer this service at the moment, but could recommend someone who could offer it. In the past of course, we relied on Hugh Bell at Sound & Screen Services in West Wickham (remember them?) but he sadly passed away in 2003. A lot has been said about worm gear changing here on the forum, but I wonder how many people who offer advice have actually worked on these machines? Not that many!

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