8mm Forum: CIR Splicer

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Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 22, 2008, 03:52 AM:

Members have recently been complaining about the price of Super 8 CIR splicers.

Some monhs ago I replaced my ageing 16mm CIR with a new one (Model 1T) from Jack Roe Limited of Ross-on-Wye. The total cost including UPS transport, insurance and British VAT (Value Added Tax) came to £313.47.

It is a splendid item and I hope will give me many years of service.

As I have said before in these columns, we have to pay for our hobby.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 22, 2008, 07:28 AM:

They can be picked up on Ebay, where I got mine, for £70-£80 quite frequently.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 22, 2008, 10:54 AM:

I assume, although you do not say, that you are refering to a second-hand item, not brand new.

In my experience the perforation cutters become blunt after time, and the receptable holes also get larger. This between them results in the tape not being correctly punched out, and time-wasting efforts by hand are needed to clear the punched holes.

Of course, spares are still readily available, but quite expensive.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on October 22, 2008, 01:02 PM:

Maurice,

Yes, mine was second hand.

You're correct in that if you can afford to it's better to buy a brand new splicer, but, not everybody can afford to. Thats why I just mentioned, possibly for newcomers who may read this thread, that they are available for a lower price.

-Mike

Posted by Colin Robert Hunt (Member # 433) on October 23, 2008, 11:28 AM:

Not everyone is in a position to pay that price. I bought a seconhand one for £60.00 and that's fine for me on the use it gets. You can pay the price's if you wish to. Just keeping a eye open for items at lower prices works as well.

Posted by Tony Milman (Member # 7) on October 23, 2008, 05:23 PM:

Bloomin heck

I could buy a litre of diesel for that [Big Grin]

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on November 29, 2008, 06:49 PM:

Okay, I like the look of the CIR 16mm 'amateur' splicer. Widescreen Centre have this at £200. Firstly, is this reasonable for the job and can it be found new any cheaper?

Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on November 29, 2008, 07:21 PM:

I can't recommend any other splicer BUT the Ciro M-3 Specials.

I am proud to say that I own FOUR of them....2 for 35mm; 1 for 8/16; and one for super 8 as pictured below.

New or used, ones like this in perfect condition can't be beat. I worked in theaters for 25 years, and only the Ciro splicer lived up to the job.

Chip G

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 30, 2008, 12:23 PM:

Steven

The Wide Screen CIR @ £199 will adequately do the job but nothing's adjustable. Far better to add another £100 and have the proper job which should last a lifetime and for which spares are readily obtainable.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 30, 2008, 01:13 PM:

[URL=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Professional-16mm-Film-and-mag-film-tape-joiner_W0QQitemZ110316731905QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccessories?hash=it em110]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Professional-16mm-Film-and-mag-film-tape-joiner_W0QQitemZ110316731905QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccessories?hash=i tem110[/URL] 316731905&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

AND this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PROFESSONAL-16mm-METAL-CIR-ADHESIVE-TAPE-SPLICER_W0QQitemZ380086212027QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_DVD_Film_TV_OtherFormats_GL?hash=item380086212027&_trksid=p3286.c0 .m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[ November 30, 2008, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: Michael O'Regan ]

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on November 30, 2008, 05:08 PM:

Like Chip, I trust CIR splicers for 35, 16 and reg 8 (I love the Fujica Stereo for Super 8 as it doesn't cover any of the mag tracks). Getting them cheaper on Ebay helps collecting spare parts, since everything on each device can be replaced.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on November 30, 2008, 06:30 PM:

Thanks for the advice. I think I will splash out on the fully adjustable. I've never had a proper 16mm tape splicer, having done tape splicing with an old cement splicer that was my Dad's! In my new approch to the hobby now I should do everything properly!

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on December 01, 2008, 02:21 AM:

Steven

A wise decision. Whilst I appreciate members' comments about second-hand CIRs on eBay, these do intend to wear, and although most spare parts are obtainable, new ones are expensive. Of course, a collection of old faulty/damaged splicers can be used for spares.

I can assure you that you will be delighted with your purchase. Have a word with Sandie at Jack Roe, she's a very helpful person.

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