8mm Forum: Sound on One's Own 16mm Films

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Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on January 02, 2009, 05:18 PM:

Many, many moons ago I used to make short films on Standard and Super 8. (Even entered Screen Test for those in the UK old enough to remember that.) Then I moved onto video and was blown away with editing on the computer and what could be done with After Effects.

Anyway, an old friend from those days was round last week and I was showing him my 16mm projection gear. He got me thinking that I should really have a go at actually shooting some 16mm.

My problem is, how to deal with the sound? Should I look to get a magnetic projector and use striped film? (How does one stripe 16mm these days? Can it even still be done?) Or should I look into some form of synchronisation mechanism - but does that mean I need to get a reel to reel tape machine?

Any pointers appreciated.

Stewart

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on January 03, 2009, 01:43 PM:

I think EVT Magnetics still stripe film (including 16mm I think). A number of Bauer 16mm projectors have magnetic record on them (I have one). And some top end Eiki/Elf have Magnetic record on them as well (slimline SNT3) but most only have Magnetic Playback.

hope this helps.

Graham S

Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on January 05, 2009, 01:27 PM:

Thanks Graham

Posted by Alan Paterson (Member # 661) on February 02, 2009, 03:24 AM:

I've got a Bell & Howell TQ111 with OPt/Magnetic sound.
Alan

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on February 02, 2009, 07:58 PM:

It might take a while to track down a projector with recording capabilities; I can't recall ever seeing one on offer at a film collecting event, and I haven't even noticed one on eBay. I expect the numbers produced were a very small fraction of the numbers of playback only projectors.

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on February 03, 2009, 08:30 AM:

Bauer P5 with mag-sound-recording (and mag/opt-playback):
http://kinotechnikrinser.de/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1392&category_id=221&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=211

Posted by Thomas Powys-Keck (Member # 691) on February 21, 2009, 05:42 PM:

Why not buy an Auricon cinevoice,you can get magnetic(i have two)or you can get optical sound(i have one)All three work fine,i sometimes use other methods of recording and transfer it to 16mm tape,i then use my double band projector which will automatically syn sound and picture.Its a much better picture than video.
Regards Tom.

Posted by Lars Pettersson (Member # 762) on February 22, 2009, 09:44 AM:

I would agree that double band projectors are a nice way to go. You can erase/rerecord the sound, you could create a very busy soundtrack on a computer in Final Cut Pro, or some such program, export it to your double band projector and synch it up to picture. My only complaint with these projectors is they weigh a ton. But sound and picture quality can be excellent.

Cheers
Lars

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