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Stewart McSporran
Master Film Handler

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From: Glasgow, Scotland
Registered: Nov 2003

posted January 02, 2009 05:18 PM

Many, many moons ago I used to make short films on Standard and Super 8. (Even entered Screen Test for those in the UK old enough to remember that.) Then I moved onto video and was blown away with editing on the computer and what could be done with After Effects.

Anyway, an old friend from those days was round last week and I was showing him my 16mm projection gear. He got me thinking that I should really have a go at actually shooting some 16mm.

My problem is, how to deal with the sound? Should I look to get a magnetic projector and use striped film? (How does one stripe 16mm these days? Can it even still be done?) Or should I look into some form of synchronisation mechanism - but does that mean I need to get a reel to reel tape machine?

Any pointers appreciated.

Stewart

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Graham Sinden
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Kent, UK
Registered: Aug 2005

posted January 03, 2009 01:43 PM

I think EVT Magnetics still stripe film (including 16mm I think). A number of Bauer 16mm projectors have magnetic record on them (I have one). And some top end Eiki/Elf have Magnetic record on them as well (slimline SNT3) but most only have Magnetic Playback.

hope this helps.

Graham S

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Stewart McSporran
Master Film Handler

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From: Glasgow, Scotland
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posted January 05, 2009 01:27 PM

Thanks Graham

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Alan Paterson
Film Handler

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From: Hants, UK
Registered: Aug 2006

posted February 02, 2009 03:24 AM

I've got a Bell & Howell TQ111 with OPt/Magnetic sound.
Alan

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Adrian Winchester
Film God

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From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004

posted February 02, 2009 07:58 PM

It might take a while to track down a projector with recording capabilities; I can't recall ever seeing one on offer at a film collecting event, and I haven't even noticed one on eBay. I expect the numbers produced were a very small fraction of the numbers of playback only projectors.

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted February 03, 2009 08:30 AM

Bauer P5 with mag-sound-recording (and mag/opt-playback):
http://kinotechnikrinser.de/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1392&category_id=221&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=211

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Thomas Powys-Keck
Film Handler

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From: Clapham Village,West Sussex,England
Registered: Oct 2006

posted February 21, 2009 05:42 PM

Why not buy an Auricon cinevoice,you can get magnetic(i have two)or you can get optical sound(i have one)All three work fine,i sometimes use other methods of recording and transfer it to 16mm tape,i then use my double band projector which will automatically syn sound and picture.Its a much better picture than video.
Regards Tom.

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Lars Pettersson
Master Film Handler

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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: Jan 2007

posted February 22, 2009 09:44 AM

I would agree that double band projectors are a nice way to go. You can erase/rerecord the sound, you could create a very busy soundtrack on a computer in Final Cut Pro, or some such program, export it to your double band projector and synch it up to picture. My only complaint with these projectors is they weigh a ton. But sound and picture quality can be excellent.

Cheers
Lars

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