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Posted by Harm Jan Heling (Member # 3458) on October 13, 2016, 08:28 AM:

Anyone knows what that means? I've got here a Barbarella LPP print and on the leader is printed "TV DOM Version".

Is this some sort of special edit? Shorter/longer, etc.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 13, 2016, 09:36 AM:

Dom = Domestic, i.e., for home country, not for foreign or international.

Posted by Alexander Vandeputte (Member # 1803) on October 13, 2016, 10:52 AM:

In this case this means: heavily edited to be suitable for TV broadcast.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on October 13, 2016, 11:56 AM:

Yep definatly edited down.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 13, 2016, 02:40 PM:

Many prints were edited just for length. To fit into standard U.S. television time slots.

Posted by Alexander Vandeputte (Member # 1803) on October 13, 2016, 04:42 PM:

True Maurice, but since we are talking "Barbarella" here, I doubt lenght was the main concern for TV broadcasters [Wink]

Posted by Harm Jan Heling (Member # 3458) on October 14, 2016, 05:49 AM:

How much is it worth you reckon? It's a good print, no lines, some dust specks here and there. After cleaning it should be excellent. It's flat, a part of the opening credits is in scope (otherwise they had to cut some text I guess [Big Grin]

Posted by Gerald Santana (Member # 2362) on October 14, 2016, 01:02 PM:

Most 16mm prints during the 40-70's were used for telecine transfer meant for television broadcast. These are marked Domestic TV, most are flat prints cropped 4:3 with cues for commercials. Nudity was cut or censored but, they were not heavily edited like a Super 8 digest. Perhaps you are only missing a few seconds or a couple of minutes but not much more.

Nudity and offensive language on studio released theatrical prints during the 70's through 2000's were left in. TV stations used blooping tape to muffle sound and cut into the print to take out scenes that were either offensive or adult oriented. Those are marked Theatrical and if was shot in Scope they were also usually printed that way or adapted scope.

This is a desirable title and hard to find in this condition. I've never seen a scope version of this title on 16mm. The screenshots show a very good condition print to me. So with that said, the value may be much higher than you expect. A 35mm, IB Tech print was sold back in July for nearly $1600.

You have a good film there, enjoy it.

Posted by Evan Samaras (Member # 5070) on October 14, 2016, 04:30 PM:

Enjoy it indeed! I'm jealous

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on October 14, 2016, 07:58 PM:

I can't recall ever seeing it offered on 16mm, so I agree it would be worth a good sum, although I wouldn't like to predict anything specific.

Although a US TV print would often be slightly shorter than the theatrical release, certain films actually have 'milder' alternative shots specifically for TV, to replace what the director expected to considered unacceptable. And there are cases of a TV version being significantly longer than a theatrical release.

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on October 17, 2016, 02:32 AM:

It's worth what people are prepared to pay. Only way to find out is eBay- worldwide. I bet it will do well.

Posted by Harm Jan Heling (Member # 3458) on October 17, 2016, 03:15 AM:

Thanks for all your replies :-). Yes, I'll probably sell it on eBay and post a link here on the sales thread.

Posted by Harm Jan Heling (Member # 3458) on April 11, 2017, 07:21 AM:

I've put it for auction:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332177470778

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