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Harm Jan Heling
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 - posted October 13, 2016 08:28 AM      Profile for Harm Jan Heling   Author's Homepage   Email Harm Jan Heling   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Anyone knows what that means? I've got here a Barbarella LPP print and on the leader is printed "TV DOM Version".

Is this some sort of special edit? Shorter/longer, etc.

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted October 13, 2016 09:36 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dom = Domestic, i.e., for home country, not for foreign or international.

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Alexander Vandeputte
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 - posted October 13, 2016 10:52 AM      Profile for Alexander Vandeputte   Email Alexander Vandeputte   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In this case this means: heavily edited to be suitable for TV broadcast.

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Tom Photiou
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Yep definatly edited down.

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Maurice Leakey
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Many prints were edited just for length. To fit into standard U.S. television time slots.

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Alexander Vandeputte
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 - posted October 13, 2016 04:42 PM      Profile for Alexander Vandeputte   Email Alexander Vandeputte   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
True Maurice, but since we are talking "Barbarella" here, I doubt lenght was the main concern for TV broadcasters [Wink]

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Harm Jan Heling
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 - posted October 14, 2016 05:49 AM      Profile for Harm Jan Heling   Author's Homepage   Email Harm Jan Heling   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How much is it worth you reckon? It's a good print, no lines, some dust specks here and there. After cleaning it should be excellent. It's flat, a part of the opening credits is in scope (otherwise they had to cut some text I guess [Big Grin] ).

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Gerald Santana
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Most 16mm prints during the 40-70's were used for telecine transfer meant for television broadcast. These are marked Domestic TV, most are flat prints cropped 4:3 with cues for commercials. Nudity was cut or censored but, they were not heavily edited like a Super 8 digest. Perhaps you are only missing a few seconds or a couple of minutes but not much more.

Nudity and offensive language on studio released theatrical prints during the 70's through 2000's were left in. TV stations used blooping tape to muffle sound and cut into the print to take out scenes that were either offensive or adult oriented. Those are marked Theatrical and if was shot in Scope they were also usually printed that way or adapted scope.

This is a desirable title and hard to find in this condition. I've never seen a scope version of this title on 16mm. The screenshots show a very good condition print to me. So with that said, the value may be much higher than you expect. A 35mm, IB Tech print was sold back in July for nearly $1600.

You have a good film there, enjoy it.

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Evan Samaras
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Enjoy it indeed! I'm jealous

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Adrian Winchester
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I can't recall ever seeing it offered on 16mm, so I agree it would be worth a good sum, although I wouldn't like to predict anything specific.

Although a US TV print would often be slightly shorter than the theatrical release, certain films actually have 'milder' alternative shots specifically for TV, to replace what the director expected to considered unacceptable. And there are cases of a TV version being significantly longer than a theatrical release.

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Terry Sills
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It's worth what people are prepared to pay. Only way to find out is eBay- worldwide. I bet it will do well.

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Harm Jan Heling
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 - posted October 17, 2016 03:15 AM      Profile for Harm Jan Heling   Author's Homepage   Email Harm Jan Heling   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for all your replies :-). Yes, I'll probably sell it on eBay and post a link here on the sales thread.

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Harm Jan Heling
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 - posted April 11, 2017 07:21 AM      Profile for Harm Jan Heling   Author's Homepage   Email Harm Jan Heling   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've put it for auction:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332177470778

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