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Phillip R Campey
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posted August 23, 2016 03:36 AM

I don't know if this was ever released on 16mm but I would love to own a print.
Thanks

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Adrian Winchester
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posted August 23, 2016 02:13 PM

I regret your chances of finding one in scope are virtually nil as nothing in scope was being printed for libraries after about the mid-1990s. It's possible that the Swank library in the USA had flat or 'adapted scope' prints, though, so it's conceivable that one of these could turn up. In the UK, I happen to know that the first Harry Potter film was one of the last to be added to the former Filmbank library, which was sadly nearly all destroyed a few years ago.

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Stuart Reid
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posted August 23, 2016 03:03 PM

'nearly all destroyed', Adrian? Did anything escape?

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Louis Franchetti
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posted September 28, 2016 03:59 AM

I have a 16mm print lpp,adapted scope, im not sure if i will sell it but what are you offering to pay?

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Phillip R Campey
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posted September 28, 2016 07:53 AM

Sent PM Louis

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Adrian Winchester
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posted September 29, 2016 09:28 PM

Stuart - sorry, only just spotted your question. I happened to discover that a batch of Filmbank prints was bought by an Australian film library before the rest was destroyed. It was a tiny fraction, less than 200, but better than nothing.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted September 30, 2016 01:24 AM

In 1996, I was told by a video's library owner that the price for a VHS that has a legal right for rental was $200-300. The same VHS WITHOUT that rights (domestic use only) was $10-15 at that time.

So I could imagine the price of 16mm come with that rights would be very expensive. The 16mm material cost would be around $2000 and then add up with the rental rights, you can calculate how much it will be.

Since only library that would afford to pay, the rest of copies must be destroyed.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted October 01, 2016 06:15 AM

But the crazy thing is to destroy all the prints without giving anyone the chance to buy them. An enterprising collector on this forum asked the rights-owning distributor if he could buy a 16mm print in the Filmbank library a year or two before it was destroyed and the distributor sold it to him for a about £70. There was no fundamental problem selling a print but most distributors failed to raalise that a quick 'closing down sale' at the warehouse could have made them a considerable sum and reduced the vast amount of prints that they then paid to have destroyed!

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