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Mikel Jenson
Film Handler

Posts: 31
From: Portland, OR, USA
Registered: Jul 2010

posted July 20, 2010 04:50 PM

So I was just wondering how actually contagious this is? I mean I have heard that you should store VS films away from other films but let's say they are all in cans can you put them close if they are in cans?

Also let's say you want to run a film with some VS going on. would you want to use a different take-up reel? like will that reel be infected and if you run another film it will be VS'ed or something? or would i have to clean it or something? or is the keeping away from others just for storage?

Thank you all.
-Mikel Jenson

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 20, 2010 06:03 PM

Do you have any films with VS, Mikel?

One thing that is important about this is that a sizable fraction of prints out there are immune to it. It's a problem of acetate prints and a lot of prints out there are polyester.

Polyester prints are not vulnerable to VS, but instead LSS (Leisure Suit Syndrome) It causes everyone in the films to dress in pastels and wear their shirts open to their navels with copious amounts of gold chains around their necks.

Don't let this happen to you!

(I'm sorry..where was I?)

Oh yes....

The thing about sealed cans is they prevent the films from airing out and tend to accelerate VS. If you're really concerned about this happening, the best thing to do is put your acetate prints in cardboard film cases.

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David Kilderry
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 963
From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Registered: Feb 2006

posted July 20, 2010 06:33 PM

What Steve says is correct........and funny.

I have any of my VS affected films stored in another part of the house away from the others. Some even use different projectors with VS films. In my opinion this is over-kill, just don't store VS films next to other films.

Search this forum and you'll see plenty on the subject.

David

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Joe Caruso
Film God

Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 22, 2010 01:47 PM

In 40-odd years of collecting, I have never had VS trouble, painstaking as it is, I prevent this by cleaning my entire library twice yearly, stored in my room with a clear, cool humidity level all about, 847 films are in original boxes (light cardboard), 47 in white-hinged boxes, 29 in metal cans stored in chests - I find metal cans are best when kept open, not entirely closed, allowing air to permeate - Yet, plastic cans are okay but if not careful, will tend to dissipate an odor towards the celluloid - All must be kept cool, it is a storage need to keep VS away - Above all, don't smoke near your films or while running them, nicotine on acetate may be a strong factor - Mark my words, Shorty

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David Erskine
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 230
From: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Registered: Aug 2008

posted July 22, 2010 03:41 PM

Was it the VS or the smoking that stunted my growth?
Cheers, David E

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John W. Black
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 536
From: Deptford,N.J.
Registered: Mar 2008

posted July 23, 2010 01:25 AM

I drill a couple small holes in any cans I use to let air get to the film,reducing the risk of VS.It is much more a problem in 16mm than 8mm.Just a tip,worse than inhaling a VS print is using Vitafilm in a poorly ventilated room.I did that once and sang the drum solo from Inna Gadda Da Vida,joined a commune,found female tuba players sexy and travelled the country as a faith healer.Other than that,I was fine.

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