8mm Forum: What's In A Name?

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Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 07, 2013, 02:48 AM:

The UK and the US share the same English language, but do they? A local West Country man from Taunton in Somerset has been banned from Facebook for discussing his favourite meal-time dish under "I Like Faggots".

Faggots are old traditional British dish using cheap meat from offal, mainly pork, and from the bits of the animal which are usually discarded, heart and liver, etc. The meat is minced with onion and breadcrumbs, rolled into a ball and cooked in the oven.

Facebook has now reinstated the man and explained it was a misunderstanding and said that no-one should have been banned.

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Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on November 07, 2013, 03:46 AM:

Maurice

I understand the British terminologies because my wife is from Kent, UK. We try to visit family every year or so. For example smoking a "fag" or " playing the mickey" on someone etc. Good thing I had my wife to translate!

Cheers!

PatD

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 07, 2013, 04:44 AM:

Faggots isn't something you hear often these days, probably a lot of young people have never heard of them. A lot of innocent statements could be misconstrued, like discussing a book at bedtime 'I like to go to bed with a Trollope', or 'My local bakery had a couple of French Tarts in the window'
Comedian Max Miller said he never told a dirty joke in his life; it was peoples filthy minds that got him his reputation.

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 07, 2013, 08:44 AM:

Some interesting 'words'

meanings

fanny
cowboy
cider

cine camera. That reminds me of the first time I visited California. Coming through customs in LAX they seem to stop everyone he wanted to know what this is my cine camera A what? A cine camera, oh you call them movie cameras don't you. Yes was his reply, then he totally wrong footed me. What DO you call "Stockings and suspenders then?

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 07, 2013, 09:28 AM:

My wife once held up her stockings with a suspender belt - A translation on request!
George Bernard Shaw is attributed as saying "England and America are two countries divided by a common language".

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 07, 2013, 09:40 AM:

My father had a friend who visited America with his wife; after a dinner they enquired about a sweet, it was thought that they wanted toffee or candy rather than a dessert.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 07, 2013, 10:51 AM:

As I recall: "faggot" is a word that's supposed to mean a bundle of sticks.

How it became applied to other meanings I have no idea....

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 07, 2013, 12:03 PM:

Imagine the fun I had as a teenager (and still do), with phrases like "butt load"! (it's a standard of measurement, for those who don't know) [Big Grin]

Posted by Guy Taylor, Jr. (Member # 786) on November 07, 2013, 12:26 PM:

If a restaurant in America has Fish and Chips on the menu there is usually a description listed below informing you that it's fish and french fries.

Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on November 07, 2013, 01:21 PM:

An employer of mine told the story of his visit with his wife to business friends in Scandinavia, where it was the custom to smoke between Courses at Dinner. His wife was greatly taken aback when after the Main Course their male host asked her..."Would you like an "intercourse"1

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 07, 2013, 01:32 PM:

You're quite right Steve, bundles of sticks for the fire are called Faggots; with open fires largely out of use in the UK, it's a word we seldom hear. I didn't know that Osi. Interesting post you started Maurice.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 07, 2013, 02:11 PM:

Intercourse used to refer to any interaction between people, even just friendly conversation.

-so much that today there is still a pretty decent sized town in Pennsylvania called "Intercourse".

The gift shops there make a fortune from this!

We stayed at a campground in the Black Forest two summers ago. Camping just wasn't camping where campfires are verboten!

(Although they did have bier!)

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on November 07, 2013, 05:20 PM:

I am afraid the word "faggot" is not uncommon to be used, to "put down" lets say, to demean someone. I can fully understand the reason behind Facebook to ban it. It really should not be used.

On a lighter side, how did the word french get into French fries? [Roll Eyes]

Another thing americans refer to a "torch" as a flashlight [Roll Eyes]

....of coarse they do drive on the wrong side of the road [Wink]

Graham.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 07, 2013, 08:56 PM:

In the English Speaking portion of the world we (and the Canadians) drive on the wrong side, but we're cool most other places! I did just Dandy in Germany: Autobahn included!

The most mind blowing place I've ever been is St. Thomas (US Virgin Islands). They have left drive cars but drive on the left!

To me a "torch" is something angry mobs carry. Then again I asked a coworker in Mexico for a "Flashlight" once and when he finally figured out what I wanted he gave me "una lampara". Seems we both learned something that day.

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 08, 2013, 01:39 AM:

Did Superman come from the UK?

Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on November 08, 2013, 02:56 AM:

This is a FILM Forum? Come on, EVERYONE knows he came from Krypton.

Posted by Mike Peckham (Member # 16) on November 08, 2013, 03:35 AM:

Many years ago, on a ski trip to Canada, we were holidaying with a mixture of Canadian and British friends. There was a confused exchange one evening when we were planning an early start for the next morning, being a heavy sleeper, one of our number asked the assembled group if anyone would be prepared to “knock her up” in the morning.

Several of the young men present were eager to oblige, but were disappointed when they realised that she was only actually looking for an early morning call… [Roll Eyes]

Mike

Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on November 08, 2013, 03:46 AM:

Or the classic tale of the American take over of the Cheltenham Ladies College (an English high class educational establishment for young ladies from wealthy families).
They were billeted in the dormitories, and were amused to find a notice on the wall under a bell-push... "If you require anything during the night, ring for a Mistress"

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 08, 2013, 04:18 AM:

Nice one Martin [Big Grin]

A few other different words we use are (American 1st)
Elevator = Lift
Sidewalk = Pavement
Vest = Waistcoat
Pants = Trousers

In the 70s I worked for British Rail in the Parcel Office, my co-worker on this particular day was Polish, who had stayed here after the war. An American came in and said to him ' I want to ship some baggage', he replied 'Ship, ship, this is rail'

Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on November 08, 2013, 05:23 AM:

Boardwalk = Pier

And the fellow who "dropped his bags off" at the Hotel before going for a walk in the park?

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 08, 2013, 11:23 AM:

In the English/American meaning for "PANTS" The English means undergarments, in American its trousers.So as "Superman wears his pants(UK) over his pants(US) he must come from England because he wears his pants on top.

The BEST Superman (Live action)

Could be pushing it here, you could class them as tights?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 08, 2013, 11:32 AM:

quote:
Could be pushing it here, you could class them as tights?

Yes, and perhaps a excessively so! [Eek!]

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 08, 2013, 12:33 PM:

I love the British Language ...

Years ago, a new a lovely British lass just over from Britain, and she said to me one time, "Knock me up sometime!"

I replied, quite amused, "Well, I'm not really looking to have kids right now."

She had a lovely blush upon hearing that, "No, not tha!" she said, (the "T" was mostly silent). I wonder whatever came of her, she had looks light Audrey Hepburn, quite "waifish" and the biggest deepest eyes you could imagine and a lovely slender frame.

You get the picture!

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on November 08, 2013, 12:53 PM:

Being originally from Scotland, it was a well known "fact" that south of the border in England that is, they do speak funny. [Smile]

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on November 08, 2013, 02:35 PM:

How about this from my county Yorkshire

Ear all, see all, say nowt.
Eat all, sup all, pay nowt.
And if tha ever does owt fer nowt, allus do it for thissen

Posted by Guy Taylor, Jr. (Member # 786) on November 08, 2013, 03:30 PM:

Traveling from Texas to New Jersey to attend the CineSea film convention is quite an experience. Every time I got out of the car in a different region I heard a different accent. No one spoke proper English like we do in Texas.

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