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Steve Klare
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posted June 20, 2016 03:03 PM
If you are going to see any of them, see the first (2009) one, it does a good job honoring the original series, and succeeds in taking it further.
-the second one? Well, they did a re-spin of Spock's death at the end of "Wrath of Khan" that to me reeked of cheesy knockoff.
The casting of these movies is great: Kirk, Spock and McCoy are obviously who they are trying to be. Chris Pine does Shatner, without overdoing Shatner. (Can't be easy...)
Chekhov comes across differently: he is very much the under-aged Russian genius barely out of the Academy. He isn't the original ("KEPTIN!!! I don't undertstaaaaannnd!!!!"), but he feels genuine.
The third feature is complete and awaiting release this Summer. It looks like they're fixin' to wreck the ship: that should be interesting come the fourth one!
Star Trek Beyond
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Steve Klare
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posted June 20, 2016 06:29 PM
Thomas,
I never said Walter Koenig's Chekhov was terrible, I said I preferred Anton Yelchin's. It's just if I ran into somebody in Novosibirsk, Moscow or Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk that sounded like that I'd say "He sounds like Walter Koenig!" and start to wonder why.
As far as Chris Pine's Kirk, there are little hints of William Shatner in there, motions of the head, inflections of his speech, just enough: nowhere near parody. Personally, I like it as he's done it. If he said he wasn't trying to do Shatner, that's fine. (Hanna-Barbera also said Yogi Bear wasn't named after Yogi Berra.)
If I saw the new McCoy in a suit and tie instead of a Starfleet uniform, I'd still say "That guy looks and sounds just like McCoy!" The resemblance is that close.
-ditto for the new Spock: even without the bowl haircut and pointy ears!
For these three characters the resemblance is a lot closer than for the rest of the cast. We basically needed to be told this was Scotty, for example. (For sentimental reasons James Doohan is more my favorite here, but I like Simon Pegg in the role.)
What's funny is how much it cuts both ways, my son's introduction to Star Trek was the new series. One day I was watching the Original Series and Shatner and Nimoy were on screen. He looked at it and said "They look like Kirk and Spock!"
Once again: I'm not saying I didn't like "Into Darkness" at all, I just preferred the first one. That death scene didn't sit well with me at all. I would have preferred they not cut it so close to Wrath of Khan.
I'm basically in agreement with the "even movie" theory on the first six, although I don't hate any of them!
-all opinion, of course! You can disagree completely and I will be fine with that. It's not even a matter of right and wrong: just preference.
An old girlfriend of mine basically labeled me a heretic for liking Star Trek, the Next Generation. Fortunately I got to the girl I eventually married while she still didn't have Star Trek...doctrines!
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