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Topic: Beware of "reelwinderz"
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 10, 2018 11:04 AM
OK ...
I decided, since I had had very good experiences with this ebay seller in the past, I decided to chance a buy from him off of ebay ... a collection of McDonlads 16MM commercials. Clyde Wall had stated that the Mcdonaldland commercials (8 of them, I believe, as well as 7 or 8 repeats, and a few repeats of those) had OK color, but the regular McDonalds commercials had faded. So, I felt that I would have a decent chance to move the faded commercials, and keep the McDonaldland commercials and at least break even, (the collection was going for 150.00).
I took him at his word ... without screenshots.
i knew I was in trouble when I saw the boxes in the box, (the original boxes) as they were faded brown or very brown, (originally white), and, sadly, the McDonaldland commercials were not OK color, but faded.
I asked for a refund and he said I had no right to lecture him on color fade properties, (he don't know me very well, do he?), and refused to do so, as I had asked for a refund and that I would simply send the commercials back to him unharmed upon receiving my refund.
So, as long as this fellow gives you screenshots, he is a good risk, but beware if you take his word on color quality.
Please note, though I have no 16MM projector to project them, I CAN supply photographic proof of how badly faded the commercials are if asked.
OSI
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Osi Osgood
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posted August 11, 2018 10:55 AM
I am waiting until Monday to put up the photo's, as I want to give him the opportunity to do the right thing. I sent him the photos I took, just to be fair. I don't believe in doing things behind folks backs, but i also don't like being taken advantage of.
... and, to be honest, I was the fool. Since we'd had such good report on ebay and his screenshots were always so accurate on ebay, when he said that the commercials had O.K. color, I chose to take him at his word, so that's my bad.
I think that he thinks that I am some kind of "novice" when it comes to color film stocks and fade properties. He's being rather condesending at the moment, but I hope that he'll do right in the end and I can report a good end to this situation.
Fingers crossed.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted August 13, 2018 11:23 AM
Well, I waited for the "reelwinderz" to reply or do thehonrable thing. instead he threatened me if I posted anything about him and this sale. I'll never understand how a person would rather hold onto a few bucks than a good reputation but, oh well.
I took these photo's against my window with the 7 commercials in question taped up, (non permanent tape so no damage to the prints) and this had a "outside background' of a green yard, so no extra added redness.
Now, if these are "OK" color, than I'll eat a hat, and if I don't have an appropriate hat for consumption, I'll buy one and eat it!
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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 13, 2018 06:47 PM
Stay with me here.
In January of 2014 I purchased through Ebay my very first GS 1200. Little did I know, this was the start of a nightmare that just didn’t seem to end. Everything about the description and the supplied photos looked good, so I bid and won.
The day the projector arrived changed everything. It powered up, but would not run. Just seemed like it didn’t have enough juice to get going. So I thought, Leon can fix this.
A quick inspection revealed the unit was for the UK nations – voltage at 220. And I was in America, normally 110. The voltage on this model was not easily adjustable.
I wrote to Ebay and PayPal and filed a dispute. Turs out that the power issue or requirement was NOT listed in the description or shown in the photographs. So I won the refund. The seller and I settled for a $300.00 refund because I wanted to keep the machine and have it repaired.
Point being. If you get shafted through an Ebay seller – go ahead and file the complaint. Use their threats as intimidation and harassment and include it in your complaint.
Anything they say at that point, further helps you back up your claim.
Three months later and $700.00 added to the cost overall, it was in my basement purring like a newborn kitten. And it is that way today nearly four years later.
You can’t restore the color on movie film, but you do and have the right of say.
Matthew James: Your first reply to this thread (L&H) was the best! I ilike the way you think..........
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted August 14, 2018 11:09 AM
Thanks for the advice, but this was NOT purchased thru ebay. This was direct transaction with Clyde and myself, and I fear that I am at the mercy of a person who felt, (and it looks like he might well be right), that he can get away with ripping me off since it was off ebay.
... but at least I can warn folks about the fellow, who's ebay name is "reelwinderz", that, if he is willing to misrepresent his stuff to you off ebay, he might well do that otherwise as well.
The sad thing is that I never had a bad transaction on ebay with him, and I guess I let my guard down off ebay and trusted the person to be as honest off ebay as on.
I don't make that mistake too often however, but it cost me big time once before ...
One time, many years ago, back when all this was prairie, (well, not THAT far back), I was just getting back into super 8 (20050, and I bought two cartoons from a ebayer in the UK, who, when I wrote him about what i was looking for, (Star Wars), he said he had a print and that he would offer it to me off ebay for 300 pounds. Well, though a good deal, I decided to go for it, and i felt that, since i was paying for it on the same day as the two ebay auctions, he would mail all of them together. it makes sense, less overall postage for the fellow.
Well, I got the ebay auctions ... but the STAR WARS didn't arrive, which I found strange. He said that he had mailed it off and after a good deal writing back and forth, he gave me a tracking number for the package, but when I had the UK post check the tracking number, they said that the package or at least the tracking number, never existed.
The fellow wouldn't give back a single penny of the Star wars money and sadly, at the time, I didn't know that I could put a stop payment or anything on the money I sent (that's my bad) ...
... but I have NEVER forgotten that person who I understand, has done assorted shadey dealings with a number of ebay names and accounts. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
So ... just because you have good dealings in ebay sales with a person, doesn't mean that they will be just as honest off ebay.
The end of my cautionary tale.
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 16, 2018 11:17 AM
Oh, I'll still do business off ebay of course, but i think I'll limit it to people that I either know real well to be totally honest, or i can do some form of background check, for instance, on here, and find out if the person is a good risk, because "reelwinderz" was definitely not ...
The sad thing is that, he was totally reliable on ebay.
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