8mm Forum: Polyester film stock

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Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on May 27, 2019, 09:14 AM:

Hi Guys,

any advice on the condition of polyester film stock with regards to colour fade. I am thinking of buying a 16mm print and ive been told that the condition is very good but fair to good colour - would this have something to do with the film stock ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on May 27, 2019, 10:52 AM:

Definitely depends on the film stock. Fair to good does sound somewhat a stretch of the imagination!
Ask the seller what stock was used for the film, and perhaps a more detailed explanation as regards the print's colour.

Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on May 27, 2019, 03:59 PM:

Hi Maurice,

Seller says colour is not too bad and it still has some blues there - so I'm not so sure - Id like the print but with postage its just over £80

Posted by Dave Groves (Member # 4685) on May 28, 2019, 04:11 AM:

David, If it 'still has some blue's there' I'd be saving my money for something else. Suggests considerable fade. Could the seller provide frame shots?

Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on May 28, 2019, 04:27 AM:

Hi Dave,

Thanks for this - I doubt the seller will provide pics as he hasn't done before - he's very well known. I think i will pass on this - he says that the condition is very good with a few light lines over the opening credits and a few light lines after that - but if there is fade - how on earth can this be in very good condition ?

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on June 09, 2019, 10:46 AM:

In my opinion a faded print can never be described as being in 'good' condition never mind 'very good condition' . [Wink]

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on June 10, 2019, 08:28 AM:

I suppose you can say very clean condition or no scratches etc.

Some prints on super 8 particularly loose integrity and sharpness as the colour goes as well.

But I do think some prints on the way can still be very enjoyable.

Best Mark.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 10, 2019, 11:19 AM:

I can't blame a person who doesn't know a good print when he or she sees one, as stating it to be good. I mean, if the print is not completely falling apart as they un-spool it, as far as they're concerned, it's good.

It's the ones that know better that get under you're skin.

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on June 10, 2019, 04:23 PM:

This always ones up from time to time. To me a film listed in good condition is talking about the physical condition of the print and the color is a seperate issue. I have some prints in fair and downright crappy condition (torn sprockets, lines) but the color is beautiful. If I see a print listed in good condition I will then ask about the color.

Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on June 11, 2019, 02:36 AM:

Thanks everyone for your replies,

After due consideration - I have past this by - although it is an entertaining film - I feel with postage - the print comes in at a little over £82 - a little over priced for its condition.

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on June 12, 2019, 02:22 AM:

David for what its worth my favourite film stock is Agfa AG 2S (Double rank printed) Its probably the only film stock that doesn't turn red.

Did an experiment a couple of years ago on a tram lined film. Colour was bad so split the film in two. One half into the freezer and the other sealed in a bag and put on top of the shed over summer. After a few months the shed film was nice and red and of course the freezer part good. The biggest enemy of any film collection is heat and humidity.
Take care.

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