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Maurice Leakey
Film God

Posts: 5895
From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted September 06, 2019 10:43 AM

How long does FilmGuard remain on a print? Does it wear off? Will a further renewal be needed some time later?
Can FilmGuard be removed?

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David Michael Leugers
Master Film Handler

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From: Fairfield, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2004

posted September 06, 2019 01:51 PM

Not sure if this if of any real help to the answer, but I have what was a very badly scratched S-8mm sound feature print (all base scratches luckily) that I treated well with FilmGuard when it first became available. The film still looks great and is not ready for re-treatment. I suspect that at some time a FilmGuard treated print will need another treatment, but it does seem to last a long time. Great stuff.

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Mark Todd
Film God

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From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003

posted September 06, 2019 04:59 PM

Hi Maurice I was going to ask Brad about helping us out in the UK and EU re Filmgaurd and letting someone make it this way possibly ?

A UK friend recently bought a smaller bottle, a pint I think, and it cost him £70 with the post and crazy fees etc.

With the £1 going even further down of been even more now.

Maybe Brad could licience someone this way to make it for us etc or supply a forum member to resell etc.

Its the best stuff going so hope so.

Best Mark.

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Leon Norris
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Elkins Park, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 2012

posted September 10, 2019 02:53 PM

Great stuff! I have been using it for years! Never had a problem!remember a little goes a long way!

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Mark Todd
Film God

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From: UK
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posted September 10, 2019 04:25 PM

Is Brad about ?

Best Mark.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Dallas, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 11, 2019 12:54 AM

Maurice, FilmGuard will naturally evaporate on it's own after some time, which is generally a few years or longer. (The length of time depends on how much you applied, how tightly the film is wound, the storage conditions of the film, etc.) A little bit goes a VERY LONG way though.

FilmGuard can be removed with perc, but there is really no reason to.

Paul Foster in the UK is again an authorized distributor for FilmGuard. He has just received (or will any day now) a shipment of both 32oz full size kits and the new 16oz half size kits.

He can be reached at filmandtvgems@btinternet.com for orders.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted September 11, 2019 04:06 AM

Thank you, Brad.
Here's a link to Paul Foster's site. He's always a helpful seller.
http://www.fosterfilms.co.uk/index.html

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Mark Todd
Film God

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From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003

posted September 11, 2019 05:32 AM

Thats fantastic, we should support Paul on this.

Might be a bit of a rush to buy some maybe.

Best Mark.

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Leon Norris
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Elkins Park, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 2012

posted September 11, 2019 10:30 AM

Long live film guard! The best!

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Burton Sundquist
Master Film Handler

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From: Burnaby, B.C. Canada
Registered: Feb 2017

posted September 12, 2019 12:56 AM

Brad has done well to offer this product to collectors who otherwise would not have access. I bave found it to be the best product. There's nothing better.

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David Hardy
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Johnshaven Village , Montrose, Scotland
Registered: Jan 2015

posted September 12, 2019 04:26 AM

Wow Brad that is great news. I shall be contacting Paul soon with my order. [Smile]

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Dominique De Bast
Film God

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From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013

posted September 12, 2019 05:37 AM

Last time I bought Filmguard was in June and it was from Jack Roe (in the UK). They may have some botles left. It may be a good idea for Europeans based outside the UK to order Filmguard before the end of October for obvious reasons.

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Tom Photiou
Film God

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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003

posted September 12, 2019 07:41 AM

Dominique, i wouldn't panic, i think we'r in for a while yet, just keep enjoying the comedy show that is Parliament.It's embarrassing and a joke. [Big Grin]

My last bottle also came from JR, i must admit i wish i hadn't bought it, the cost was not much short of a 100 quid. It shouldn't cost half that in my opinion!!

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Mark Todd
Film God

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From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003

posted September 12, 2019 03:08 PM

I was in contact with Paul, it will be less than from Jack Roe`s, and cheaper than importing.

He`ll know the price soon.

Good news.

Best Mark.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted October 18, 2019 05:08 AM

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FilmGuard can be removed with Perc

That was Brad's very useful advice, however Perc (perchloroethylene) does not seem to be readily available. Many years ago in my cinema days we used Tric (trichloroethylene) but this also seems to have disappeared.

However, on a cinema website, I found a spray cleaner called TF-90, so I bought a can. It appears that it is the modern equivalent of tric based products.

I bought a four-reel 16mm feature which had problems taking up tightly, the film, to the feel, was very slippery. I assumed that a previous owner had probably overdone the application of FilmGuard.

I have now applied TF-90 to the film and it already feels like 16mm film should feel. When I have more time I will see if my Bell & Howell seems more happy with taking up the film.

Thank you, Brad.

https://www.taw.eu.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52

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Brian Fretwell
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: London, UK
Registered: Jun 2014

posted October 18, 2019 02:46 PM

Must be part of the CFC (though no fluorine in it) reduction programme after the ozone layer whole crisis. We used gallons of trichloro-triflouroethane, a dry cleaning fluid to clean magnetic tape drives in a computer centre I worked in in the 70's and 80's.
I don't think that's available now either,

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted November 05, 2019 01:49 PM

Just got out a Bell & Howell 2592 and ran the film.
I am very pleased to say that it took up as tight as a drum, and even smells like film again.
Perhaps a previous owner was over-zealous with the application of FilmGuard.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Dallas, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 05, 2019 04:17 PM

Over-application of FilmGuard will not make a print takeup loosely. That was something else the prior owner put on that film.

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