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Billy Blair
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 - posted May 30, 2018 04:20 AM      Profile for Billy Blair     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As title. Im looking for the exact dimensions of a typical 9.5mm sprocket so I can 3D print some.

Thanks.

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Allan Broadfield
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If you haven't already tried, look up 9.5mm film on Wikipedia. It gives all the dimensions.

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Billy Blair
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Hi. Wikipedia only lists the films dimensions. Not the sprocket itself. [Frown]

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Luigi Castellitto
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Billy, Here it should be. [Smile]
http://pierreg.free.fr/cine95/c95tech.htm

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Billy Blair
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Awesome! Thats exactly what I need!! I owe you a beer. [Big Grin]

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Allan Broadfield
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Wikipedia includes the sprocket dimensions too.

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Billy Blair
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@Allan: The only thing I could find is this which only mentions film dimensions: Wikipedia 9.5mm Film

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Allan Broadfield
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It appears to give the width and height of the perforation.

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Allan Broadfield
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It appears to give the width and height of the perforation.

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Billy Blair
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Unfortunately width and height of perforation wasnt enough!

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Allan Broadfield
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Ok, I'm obviously not au fait with things 3D - I still have probs with the smart phone!
Thanks.

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Billy Blair
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No worries! Ill post a link to the final 3d object in case anyone wants to use it.

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Luigi Castellitto
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My pleasure, Billy!
A good old Ale! [Wink]

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Billy Blair
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If anyones interested, Here's the 3D object to print from. It's not been tested though as I don't have a 3D printer so may need modifying. I designed it so the image area of the film isn't touching the sprocket.

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Download STL file

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Terry Sills
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I can understand that the flat surfaces between the sprockets would protect the film surface/ emulsion, but why the irregular outer rims? This would only serve to damage fragile or brittle film. Surely a simple circular shape would be better. All film sprockets have that feature.

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Billy Blair
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Thats just the way SketchUp renders circles to save processing power. It'll be perfect circle when printed. Ill do a proper render as the image was just a screenshot of one of the views in SketchUp.

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Billy Blair
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Slightly updated with smoother edges and hole is standard 5mm.

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Download STL 3D File

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Maurice Leakey
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Very impressive. What will it be used on?

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Billy Blair
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Mainly if youre building a telecine or a film cleaner perhaps.

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Dominique De Bast
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Good job, Billy ! I was wondering, as Maurice, what you would do with it. Do you have a specific project or were you asked by someone else to manufacture those sprockets ?

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Billy Blair
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quote:
Good job, Billy ! I was wondering, as Maurice, what you would do with it. Do you have a specific project or were you asked by someone else to manufacture those sprockets ?
Its just for personal DIY projects.

I built a telecine using the Bingoscope projector and thought I might need a sprocket to stabilise the film but it seems ok without it.

So decided to make my own version of the Film-o-Clean (as its so expensive!) using some good ol Lego Technics! It will have interchangeable sprockets and 9.5mm is one of them. The sprocket will go onto the top right spindle. If I ever get to 3D print it that is!

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Mark Mander
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Looks great Billy,let us know how it performs,Mark

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Stuart Reid
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Seems to me a 3D printed Film-O-Clean would be a really useful tool!

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