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Pierre Mdihi
Film Handler

Posts: 86
From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jan 2019

posted June 10, 2019 02:11 PM

hi everyone,

This week-end at the flees market, i found this pathé projector. It's seem in good condition, no signs of rust and no signs of impacts and the motor seems to turn without problem. I don't know if it's a good projector for projection because i just collecting projector that can be use for projection i'm not intrested to make a museum. Searching on internet i found that the sound part is missing, there is alternative to get sound?

The upper belt is missing, do you know were i kind found it ? This one can work on it:
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Courroie-acier-de-bras-projecteur-Pathe-Kok-type-C/163663020642

Here some pictures of my new acquisition:

If you have some advice to use or restore this projector, i will gladly take it.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

Posts: 5895
From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted June 10, 2019 03:03 PM

The projector is a Pathe silent model S introduced in November 1937. It had a 15volt, 200watt lamp.

The sound Vox arrived in April 1938. The amplifier had an output of 2 watts. At this same time an S owner could buy the amplifier, soundhead and loudspeaker to convert his S into a Vox.

They were manufactured in France and after the invasion in 1940 production ceased, and was never to reappear after the war.

However, they are a sturdy projector and many are still in use. In fact, I have one which has been converted with a transistorised amplifier and an A1/232 lamp.

Here's a Vox working with the film "Betty Boop and Grampy."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGTrM0b7Lz0

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Maurice

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Dominique De Bast
Film God

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From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013

posted June 10, 2019 03:05 PM

Congratulations. I haven't a projector like this so I don't know what it worths. I assume the lamp is a P28. Don't put a higher wattage than the one advised for this projector. I personnally try to be very carefull with any metallic device that has electrical wires inside. Take the time to look carefully at the state of those wires. Many old projectors have no belt on the feeding harm and work without problem. This belt is usually needed only if you want to rewind with the projector, something I would not advise. Should your model (again, I don't know it) need thé belt to avoid the uper spool to run to quickly, you could still use (softly) your finger to make a test (before investing any money or time). About the sound, it looks like being an original silent model (I looked at the pictures on my tiny phone screen). The most important thing is your safety. Remember there is no ground on this machine that was designed at a time when safety had different standards than now. The fact that the projector is well used should make you very carefull about electric shoks risks.

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Dominique

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Lee Mannering
Film God

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From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006

posted June 11, 2019 12:32 AM

Electrical rewire for your own safety my friend will be the first thing.
Like Maurice mine have had a soup up as we used to call it. Transistor amp, Halogen lamp and I shortened the drive chain in the back one link as these stretch over 80 years of use pretty much eliminating audio wow.
I also recently fitted a analogue to digital sound circuit as well which now has a digital optical feed to my AV amp. Bit of a 9-5 first perhaps.

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Paul Adsett
Film God

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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted June 11, 2019 10:27 AM

Well done Lee - Digital 9.5mm sound! [Smile]

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Pierre Mdihi
Film Handler

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From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jan 2019

posted June 11, 2019 02:42 PM

Thanks for the comments. I'm glad to hear that it's a projector who can be use for looking at movie not just a piece of museum. I will take a look inside and see if it's easy to change the electric wire. I have never do this but if i have to simply change a wire i may be able to make it. I will inform you if the projector is working.
I may come back to you to know how to place a more recent light inside and how your system to have sound is working.

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