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Jan Bister
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posted July 03, 2005 06:10 PM

Just noticed an eBay auction for what the seller claims is a Derann print of this movie... I thought only Niles Films ever released it on super-8. What's the story? If Derann really did release HGTT, is the color likely to be significantly better than Niles' Eastmancolor prints?

(And figures, I'm trying to sell my own faded-red print (one of two that I have) on eBay but so far nobody's bitten yet - and the other guy's print starts at a much lower opening bid than mine) [Mad]

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James N. Savage 3
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posted July 04, 2005 06:29 PM

Jan- I'm not sure about Derann releasing this one, but I know that "Red Fox Films" in Pennsylvania did release it, as well as Niles.

Nick.

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Jan Bister
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posted July 04, 2005 07:59 PM

The seller claims high and low that Derann themselves did release HGTT in the late 70s... even the reels (white) and boxes have that typical Derann look. Hmmmmmm.

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Barry Attwood
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posted July 05, 2005 02:23 AM

Yes,

Derann did release "Hoppity Goes To Town" together with the other Fleischer F/L cartoon "Gulliver's Travels" here in the U.K. in the mid to late 1970's. The prints tended to be a bit muted on the colour side, but were generally acceptable on both titles.

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted July 05, 2005 03:49 AM

Barry is spot on about Derann releasing this print. Derek told me some while back that a number of titles were released by Derann and Red Fox as the two companies struck up some deals with the film studios together. For instance Red Fox and Dearnn struck up the rights on the Warners titles which is why Robin Hood was released by the two companies. On that note I think the Red Fox print was the best with far better saturation which is why I found Barry's comments about HGTT rather interesting.

Kev.

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Barry Attwood
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posted July 05, 2005 09:21 AM

Dear Kevin,

Although you were right about Derann and Red Fox doing a deal in the early 80's for F/L features, it was in fact Ivy Films who he did a deal on for "HGTT" & "Gulliver's Travels", as at that time they had the world 8mm and 16mm rights to those 2 titles, as well as "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" (the original, and best), which Derann released as well (now find me a print of the Derann "IOTBS", as there were not to many printed).

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted July 05, 2005 10:55 AM

Barry, that brings back memories...I had forgotton about Ivy Films and didnt realise that Derann had done deals with them as well. I take it this was to get the number of sales (jointly) that the film companies required?

Kev.

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Barry Attwood
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posted July 05, 2005 11:03 AM

Kevin,

Derann sold quite a few of the 2 Fleischer F/L cartoons, but I know that Derek was dissapointed with sales of "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", and I believe they only ever had one run done of those, which was most probably 50 prints in those days.

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Gary Crawford
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posted July 05, 2005 01:00 PM

Back in the early 70's my now EX wife gave me for Xmas, the Ivy Films Super 8 release of Invasion of the Body Snatchers....and it served me well for 30 years..until I sold it a couple of years ago when I acquired a 16mm print. They did a pretty good printing job, althought the scene early on at the train station was printed a hair light. Other than that ..a really nice print . So ifyou ever see it on Ebay, grab it ..it's a nice quality print.

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Jan Bister
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posted July 05, 2005 08:31 PM

So.... if you had a faded-red Niles print of Hoppity, and a chance to win that Derann print of the same film... would you bother to bid? Or would you figure that the color probably isn't THAT much better anyway? ... What do you guys think I should do [Eek!]

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