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Andy Oliver
Film Handler

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From: Croydon, Surrey
Registered: Apr 2006

posted May 08, 2006 01:31 PM

Hello, please can anyone advise the cost of a mint condition, boxed, elmo f1.4 25-50 lens. I have been offered one, how much do these lenses sell for. This lens comes from a widow, i dont wish to short change her. Thanks for any advice

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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted May 08, 2006 02:48 PM

Andy,
I am lucky to have the Elmo 25-50mm lens, it is actually an f1.2 lens. This is a superb all glass lens and is quite heavy. It is the lens you must have for auditorium use. I believe John Clancy uses this lens at the BFCC. I paid $300.00 for mine on ebay.

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Alan Rik
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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted May 08, 2006 03:26 PM

Actually Elmo did come out with a 1.4 long throw lens before they had the 1.2. The 1.2 though is probably one of the best lenses every made for the Elmo line. It is in my opinion better than the 1.0 in terms of sharpness-

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Adrian Winchester
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From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004

posted May 08, 2006 04:50 PM

Paul,
Congratulations on tracking down the 1.2 version. I've heard that these are exceptionally rare, and your post represents the first evidence I've come across of someone actually owning one!

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted May 08, 2006 05:49 PM

I use to have one but I sold it along with my Xenon GS to the notorious Frank Adams!
Then he sold the projector to Alan Gouger of this forum with the 1.2 and so now.. Alan Gouger has it. [Smile]

Also Phil's Vintage has one with a 1.0 to be sold as a set with 2x GS1200's here:

http://www.8mm16mmfilmscollectibles.com/super-8.htm

The lens is kind of rare..unless you know where to look! [Smile]

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted May 08, 2006 05:59 PM

I've got a pair of 1.4. One came with one of my GS and I bought the other from one of this forum members for 80GBP.
I saw a 1.2 for 250 euros recently, so I guess Paul's price is right.

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Douglas Meltzer
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From: New York, NY, USA
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posted May 08, 2006 10:36 PM

I have a 1.2 25-50mm and I'm in total agreement with Rik. It is the sharpest super 8mm lens I've seen. One problem: I'd need to make some holes in a few walls in order to get the projector far enough away from the screen to get a decent size picture!

Andy,

Sorry I can't quote you a price as the lens came with the projector.

Doug

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Andy Oliver
Film Handler

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From: Croydon, Surrey
Registered: Apr 2006

posted May 09, 2006 04:24 PM

Hi, thanks for the replies, i will be bringing the lens along to Ealing as i have no requirement for it. So if anyone wants it for a few pence!!!, let me know.

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 09, 2006 05:26 PM

Just a few pence [Eek!]

I'll make it 10 [Big Grin]

Kev.

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Jan Bister
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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted May 09, 2006 09:55 PM

Is that 10 pence or 10 squid, Kevin [Big Grin]

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 10, 2006 02:52 AM

Andy, I've had Robert Tucker in touch with me recently after just that very lens. Assuming it is a 1.2 or 1.4 can you reserve it for him as he's coming to Ealing especially to look for one.

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Graham Sinden
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From: Kent, UK
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posted November 03, 2009 06:57 AM

Ive got a 1.2 long throw lens but never used it. Can someone tell me the minimum and maximum distance you can use it for and still focus.

Just curious as lens sizes have always baffled me as to the size of the picture, distance etc.

Graham S

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Martin Jones
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posted November 03, 2009 08:56 AM

Depends on what gauge you are using it with.
The picture width is inversely proportional to th focal length i.e. the picture will be half as wide at 50mm as it is at 25mm.
Martin

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Graham Sinden
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From: Kent, UK
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posted November 03, 2009 11:05 AM

Thanks Martin. I would be using it for Super 8 with the GS1200.

Graham S

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Martin Jones
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From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted November 03, 2009 12:16 PM

A 25 mm lens will give a picture 1.2 m wide at a throw of 6m with Super 8 film.
Double the throw, you double the width. Double the focal length, you halve the width.
All quoted figures are a close approximation as different machines may have slightly different apertures, but they are close enough for all practical purposes.
Martin

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