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Topic: Heurtier P6 24B Power Cord

Glenn Brady
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posted April 25, 2007 08:05 AM

I've been unable to locate a source of supply for a replacement power/mains cord for a Heurtier P6 24B projector. Can anyone recommend such a source?

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted April 26, 2007 07:26 AM

Hi,

If I'm not mistaken, you can use any cord with a "Kaltgerätestecker" (sorry, but I don't know the correct English term). Those cords are used for the power supply of PCs, TVs, CD-players, ... . (You'll probably have to "carve in" the plastic at the plug a little bit.)

Jörg

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted April 26, 2007 07:40 AM

I think the English term for these is "Kettle Lead" [Smile]

K.

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Glenn Brady
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posted April 26, 2007 06:16 PM

Thanks much. At least I have a search term that I can use now. We're a bit out in the sticks and I've only managed to elicit blank stares when I've shown the plug configuration to suppliers here.

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Steve Klare
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posted April 26, 2007 06:19 PM

Glenn,

Can you post a digital picture of the connector?

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Glenn Brady
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posted April 26, 2007 09:12 PM

Hi, Steve

I don't yet have the projector in hand, but should have it tomorrow.

I looked up 'kettle lead' and only came up with a standard EIA plug. Having owned one of these projectors in the recent past, I know an EIA plug won't fit. The pins are round and recessed into the projector chassis, so an EIA plug is too large even to be brought into contact with them. If memory serves me, I believe the plug conforms to an Italian standard. Why this would be so on a French projector, I'm not sure.

I'll try to add an image (or find one I can reference online).

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted April 27, 2007 07:13 AM

Some typical plugs/sockets/outlets found at Conrad.de:

"Europa-Kaltgeräte-Einbaustecker":
http://www.order.conrad.com/m/6000_6999/6100/6120/6125/612529_BB_00_FB.EPS.jpg

"MINI KALTGERÄTE STECKER":
http://www.order.conrad.com/m/7000_7999/7300/7350/7356/735604_BB_00_FB.EPS.jpg

"GERÄTESTECKER EURO CEE_FIL":
http://www.order.conrad.com/m/6000_6999/6200/6270/6276/627640_LB_00_FB.EPS.jpg

"EUROPA WARMGERÄTE-KUPPLUNG GRAU":
http://www.order.conrad.com/m/6000_6999/6100/6120/6122/612235_BB_00_FB.EPS.jpg

"EUROPA-EINBAU WARMGERÄTE-STECKER GRAU"
http://www.order.conrad.com/m/6000_6999/6100/6120/6121/612170_BB_01_FB.EPS.jpg

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Glenn Brady
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posted April 27, 2007 08:41 AM

The plug for which I'm searching may conform to the Italian grounded plug/socket standard, CEI 23-16/VII. I should be able to verify this once I take delivery of the projector.

Although I've reviewed the 'image upload' instructions for this forum in the hope that I might be able to post a picture of the receptacle on the projector, my computer skills are rudimentary and, frankly, not up to the task.

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Glenn Brady
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posted April 27, 2007 02:23 PM

A new post by another forum member has led me to a website where there's a free download of the instruction manual for the Heurtier P6 24B Bi-Film projector. Page nine of that manual - found at http://www.super8.no/Manuals/Heurtier_Projector%20P6-24B_User%20manual_English.pdf - shows the mains receptacle on the machine. Although three pin male plugs having this configuration seem to be readily available, I've not found a source for the female plug that's required.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted April 30, 2007 05:22 AM

Hi,

yes, your plug looks a little bit like an inverse version of this Italian plug:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stecker-Typ_L

Unfortunately there's a high chance that this was an "Heurtier-only" version since there have been at least 10 different plugs/outlets with 3 pins in Europe when the projector got designed. Hence Heurtier might have invented their own power cables [Frown]

Nevertheless you might find an adapter on this "Travel Adaptors"-page (or similar webpages):
http://www.biagmbh.com/cgi-local/browse/catalog.cgi?section=15&id=Travel_Adaptors&show=de.wikipedia.org

Jörg

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Glenn Brady
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posted April 30, 2007 06:25 AM

Hi, Jörg

Having searched for such a power cord before without success (my last P6 24B came without one also), I'm inclined to agree that this plug configuration may be unique to Heurtier.

Thanks for your helpful advice.

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John Whittle
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posted April 30, 2007 04:26 PM

Glenn,

You might contact Bel-Air Camera in Beverly Hills, CA. They were the offical US Importer at one time and might either have one or tell you where to look for one.

John

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Ian John
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posted April 30, 2007 07:26 PM

Glen, the mains power lead that fits the Heurtier P6 is the same plug that fits the "Chinon C-200s" silent projector. Years ago, I owned the P6 and the amp base and sound head unit (the same unit configuration and grey colour as on the pdf link you gave for the manual).

I also own the silent Chinon C-200s projector (I use it to transfer silent home movies), give me your email address and I will send you a few pics of the Chinon projector, it's mains socket, and a close-up of the plug on the mains lead, then you can pick one of these chinons up from Ebay, and then you will have the lead to use on the Heurtier as well as the chinon.

Ian (South Wales)

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Glenn Brady
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posted May 19, 2007 11:56 AM

I've pursued leads suggested by forum members, but haven't succeeded in finding one of these cords. Not too surprisingly, Bel-Air Camera no longer stocks the cords.

I thought I'd solved the problem when I bought another Heurtier P6 24B Bi-Film projector. Although the seller assured me the machine was supplied with the original power cord, what I got was an ungrounded cord terminating in a couple of alligator clips (a light wrapping of electrical tape around the clips was thoughtfully provided as protection against electrocution). This is the third projector of this kind I've owned, and none has come with the original cord. Given that the cord is only rarely useful with other appliances, it's surprising that it goes missing so often.

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Glenn Brady
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posted June 08, 2007 08:13 AM

I purchased a power cord for a Prinz Magnon projector (a re-branded Chinon), hoping it would fit my Heurtier P6 24B Bi-Film projector. Although the spacing of the holes in the plug on the cord matches the spacing of the pins in the projector, the holes are smaller in diameter than the pins, preventing the plug from fitting. It seems as if only an original Heurtier cord will work.

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