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Topic: Here is other Marketing Films printed on AGFA (other than "Raiders of the lost Ark")
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted January 22, 2010 10:56 AM
Hi all,
What I knew that Marketing Films only used AGFA on it last print, Raiders of the lost Ark. Other than that, for single reel or 3 reeler, they will be on Kodak SP, resulting brownish side now. The full feature is even worst because some on Eastman stock, having they are reddish now.
But I accidentally I found this screen shots from Ebay of War of the Worlds and here are the pictures:
and this must be from Marketing release as the leader shows:
"INT.4164-3" which is that the catalog # for this title.
This is new to me. Making me eagerly to have more Marketing Films release. Their boxes are top notch and my favorite. But the brownish side of Godfather, 10 Commandments, Warriors etc makes me feel hard to collect them.
So anybody can re-assure me that beside "Raiders" there are some other releases from Marketing Films (USA or Germany) that printed on AGFA ?
thanks
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Winbert
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Greg Marshall
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 612
From: Nashville, TN USA
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted January 22, 2010 06:16 PM
In my first round of collecting in the 1990's, I acquired that 3-reel War Of The Worlds. The prior owner had re-recorded it in stereo, and the colors were absolutely perfect, very much like the ones in these pics. (WHY DID I SELL OUT????)
I have two prints of Grease that are Marketing prints, and both are on polyester stock. One has better color than the other, but they worse one is still very watchable, not brown or anything like that.
Now, I do have a 3-reeler of Saturday Night Fever, and it is the brown/red color. Watchable, but I'm still on the lookout for the feature that might be better.
Acetate vs. polyester, I'm thinking it probably depends on when they were printed. I'd assume acetate prints might be older than the polyester prints, and thinking acetate prints were more expensive to strike... at least they are in 35.
Just my two cents....
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted January 23, 2010 01:38 AM
We have a few marketing 3 400 films, the first release batch which included Chinatown, godfathers 1&2 saturday night fever and Once upon a time in the west & Marathon man. We noticed now that saturday fever is turning, and regretfully, once upon a time is also showing signs of colour fade as is Marathon man (all be it only on reel one).
I also own two of the second batch of releases which for me is war of the worlds and the the warroirs, these are both still excellent, my 400ft Raiders of the lost ark, although good in colour is not quite as sharpe in picture.
the Full features were proceessed by a ifferent lab and many of these,(i believe) are now fadin. However, we do have the full feature of The mean machine and to date this one still has superb colour with signs no of fade. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
[ August 28, 2010, 02:51 AM: Message edited by: Tom Photiou ]
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted August 27, 2010 06:22 PM
Winbert - I missed this thread earlier this year, but I note that no one has yet been able to answer your question. However, I can confirm that the War of the Worlds 3 x 400' WAS printed on AGFA, I've just checked mine and it says AGFA 1S, and it looks just like the screen shots at the top. This was no surprise to me as I used to have the 400' version, which I also found was AGFA. It would be interesting to know what yours is printed on. I imagine there were other Marketing AGFAs other than Raiders, even though no one has confirmed this yet. I have a 400' of Prophecy that I presumed was AGFA, as it has perfect colour, but I've just checked and much to my surprise it's 1980 Kodak SP.
It's true that polyester is need not be low fade. I've seen badly faded polyester, just as there's low fade acetate.
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Adrian Winchester
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 27, 2010 08:50 PM
Thanks Adrian and Mark,
My copy is on Kodak SP.
The same case also for Airplane (3 x 400), Godfather (3 x 400), Godfather 2 (3 x 400), Saturday Night Fever (3 x 400), Grease (3 x 400), Chinatown (3 x 400), Ten Commandments (3 x 400), Steiner (German 3 x 400), Steiner 2 (German 3 x 400)and True Grit (400).
Both Godfathers are badly faded (I think no one has with good colors though), Ten Commandments is used to be good, the rest are like the picture above, i.e colors are still noticeable but a bit brownish.
I guess, I have never been so luckier like you.
Only RoLA that I have on AGFA, yet it has gone faded now ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
cheers,
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Winbert
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Robert Babun
Junior
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From: Perth Australia
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 28, 2010 06:29 AM
Winbert
I purchased new, four full length features directly from Marketing Films International.
The titles, in the order of acquisition:
"Saturday Night Fever"
"Marathon Man"
"Death On The Nile", and
"The Hunter".
They were purchased over a twelve month period from December 1980.
The first three titles were printed in a New York laboratory on Eastman SP, the fourth title was printed in a German laboratory on Agfa 3S!
I no longer have the films. However, 15 years ago the colour was perfect on all but "Saturday Night Fever"!
The quality of "The Hunter" was outstanding, very sharp focus, rich colours, flawless print with clear sound.
I now only have "Raiders of the Lost Ark", the digest, which is on Agfa 2S, it remains beautiful. However, sharpness, focus and clarity are not as good as the feature films.
My experience is limited to four full length features and one 400' digest.
As an aside, if memory serves: in late 1982 I ordered three more full length films. I was so impressed with the Agfa prints from Germany. I ordered: "The Godfather", "The Godfather II", and "Chinatown".
Unfortunately, no prints were ever shipped. A long, long time later my international bank drafts were sea mailed back to me. The envelopes were stamped "Return to Sender". It was goodbye to a fine distributor. At least I knew finally why there was no response to my attempted phone calls.
I can confirm that later printings of specific full length features were on Agfa low fade "S".
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