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Topic: Marketing film release of "Grease"
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted August 28, 2012 01:01 PM
It should be noted that while Winbert is right about this being released before LPP, Agfa and Fuji were around as well, and I have heard factually from a few collectors that they're prints of "War of the Worlds" (the 3X400ft edition) are on low fade.
Remember, there were low fade stocks before LPP on super 8, and while fuji can fade, sometimes (depending of the year of the stock) to having a purplish hue, Agfa still remains brilliant. I have two standard 8mm Disney shorts "Clock Cleaners" and "Moose Hunters" and they haven't faded a bit, and they are from a quite a few years back before the advent of LPP.
I have been impressed with markwting Films prints in general. The prints are quite sharp and the mono sound is truly excellent, but at times, (as has been commented on here) the film stocks have let down the prints.
Curiously, the different cuts of the prints can have widely varying stocks. The 3X400ft of "War of the Wolrds" is on a low fade stock, but the full feature by Marketing, was on quick fade eastman, so collecting the 3X400ft makes much more sense than trying to find a perfect color feature of this title.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted August 28, 2012 02:35 PM
The way I describe them Winbert would be ; RED PRINT, a film
that has faded totally red with no other colour at all.
A FADED or PINK print is one that has lost some but not all it's colour,some blue or yellow may remain.
A TURNING or WARM print, is one where the colour is not quite
true,especially the flesh tones and the blacks have a colour tinge,
but is still acceptable.
Obviously the best prints to aim for are the IBs ,LPPs ,Agfa or
Fuji's.Some 8mm features were printed on reversal stock.
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Greg Marshall
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From: Nashville, TN USA
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted August 28, 2012 06:03 PM
Austin,
Lance Alspaugh has done many re-records for me. He actually did the work on my Grease/Scope print from Derann. Amazing difference that a booming stereo mix makes! If your print has sound issues, you may want to consider having it remixed. Based on his charges, it would probably cost you $70-$80 bucks to test and lay the tracks, as long the sound issues are from dropouts in the sound, not inferior mag stripe that may be coming off. That would definitely add value back to your print, especially when it comes time to sell it (if you do).
Lance charges per minute of running time, not by the foot, which makes it fair. He will listen to you about your issues on the print, test the tracks, and will report back to you if he feels the stripe will take a remix well or not. He'll then leave it up to you to proceed. He's a forum member here. If you contact him, be sure to tell him I sent you.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted August 29, 2012 07:10 PM
On the subject of film fade, I viewed my old std 8mm print of
"Jason & the Argonauts",which I last run about 9 months ago
and found that reel 2 has gone red,3 & 4 are turning, but part
1 is perfect.This little film is 40 years old and has been shown
countless times,but has held up well.To soften the blow,my
better half, purchased the 16mm print that was on ebay for me
which was a Fuji print from 2007 and the colour is gorgeous
as good as Deranns feature. So the std 8 version,all parts purchased within months of each other all at different stages
of fading.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted September 02, 2012 04:19 PM
Hi Adrian,to say I was chuffed was an understatement, the original
advert is still on ebay,the gent was a Parisian, who kept saying
in the ad it was brand new,but wasn't quite sure of the stock.
Myself,I wasn't too concerned what filmstock it was, the frame
shots looked excellent.On checking the tails,it read FUJI 07.
The print is very clean,no splices & begins and ends on fades at
spool changes.I already have another two on 16mm,one red and
the other on the turn.I think this print will do my time here on
Earth,and of course Derann's print.
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